#9336 - 09/17/02 03:45 PM
Re: Survival Keychains
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Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
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Nice! Both the Survival Keychain and the Deluxe Survival Keychain look easily pocketable, inobtrusive, and low-key. Oh boy, I want one!<br><br>I see both versions offer the Swiss-Tech Utili-Key. Has anyone here actually used theirs? How handy are they?<br><br>Looks like competition for Ranger Rick's Survival Necklace ( http://www.equipped.org/rangerrick_necklace.htm).
Edited by Craig (09/17/02 04:00 PM)
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#9337 - 09/19/02 04:22 AM
Re: Survival Keychains
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Journeyman
Registered: 07/04/02
Posts: 57
Loc: Oregon
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I want one too! Actually, I already have almost all of the parts. The "spy capsules" looked extra handy. I have daily medication I have to take and these look like something that would come in very handy as part of my EDC.<br><br>Does anyone know where to purchase a "spy capsule"?
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#9338 - 09/19/02 05:15 AM
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#9339 - 09/19/02 07:55 AM
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Hi Craig,<br><br>I have used my Utili-Key dozens of times for those odd moments when you just need something right away. I have used the Philips screwdriver to remove small screws, I have used the tiny flat screwdriver for glasses and the blade for peeling oranges and cutting boxes open. A real handy tool for that "emergency" situation. And it makes for a conversation piece with almost everyone..LOL
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#9340 - 09/19/02 12:38 PM
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#9342 - 09/29/02 10:48 AM
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Greetings to the Survival Forum!<br><br>When I have previously thought about keychain carried matches in an sealed metal container, I have had a niggling concern about the possibility of a friction between the matches causing a small explosion in my pocket. Has anyone heard of this happening -- am I being paranoid? <br><br>P.S.: That micro butane lantern on http://www.milltools.com/spycaps.html looks very cool - I wonder why it was discontinued and/or if it is available elsewhere?
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#9343 - 09/29/02 02:05 PM
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Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
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Of course it can happen. But it's not very likely. Once, as I was heading out on a deployment in the middle of the night, my beloved was checking bits and pieces of my kit as I was dressing. A loud, sharp report, simultaneous with a subsonic projectile passing near me made my instincts shriek " accidental pistol shot!" Then the odor and bits of plastic shrapnel hit me and I knew what happened before I turned around. My wife - more of a greenhorn than me at the time, had decided that I didn't have enough strike-anywhere matches in my match safe, so she stuffed more into it - a lot more - and screwed the lid on. They were packed in so tightly that one or more heads were above the rim AND could not be seated deeper because the safe was so full. As she tightened the cap on the last bit, the lid crushed and set off the highest match. In forensic circles, this is a pipe bomb <grin>... Other than the cap to the safe, some minor burns, and a sprained thumb, no harm - we were very lucky.<br><br>They do not have enough mass at any acceleration your body can survive to ignite from sliding back and forth in a safe and "normal" strike-anywhere matches do not have a tip that is exposed to friction on the side of the head. Rarely, one will see a "mutated" match that has too much strike-anywhere on it that has slopped over onto a side - don't stuff those in a safe. Otherwise, though, they are not hazardous to carry. Give the matter some thought and I'm sure you can see that.<br><br>BTW, "safety matches" can be a hazard. I recall my Dad showing up a bit tardy for a function we were both attending. He was grimacing a bit as he walked... seems he had to return to his hotel room and change his trousers... as he was walking to the function, his pocket erupted in flames, burning the top of his thigh and ruining his trousers. He had two books of safety matches in that pocket - the striker on one book had intruded onto the heads of the matches on the other book and as he walked... <br><br>Match safes are not dangerous as long as you don't do something foolish with them.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Tom
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#9344 - 09/29/02 03:50 PM
Re: Survival Keychains
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Registered: 08/16/02
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Loc: Germany
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I tried to provoke this by filling matches into the container and shaking the container (just didnīt want to find out with the container in my pocket). The matches didnīt ignite. I fill the top of the container with cotton wool anyway. <br>If youīre not sure with the matches in your container, maybe a little test will make you feel safer.
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#9345 - 09/29/02 04:18 PM
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Registered: 12/10/01
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Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
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Yeah - the "sensitive" portion is only the strike-anywhere tip (we've discussed match chemistry previously). One may "investigate" this by loading wooden matches into an ordinary BB gun and firing them at a concrete surface like a driveway or patio... strike-on-box will do NOTHING. Strike-anywhere will usually pop and/or ignite but ONLY if the angle is steep enough to get the tip to impact first. At an oblique angle, they just bounce away. Since I doubt that we can entice a match to abruptly slam into the top of a match safe carried on our person at 200-300 fps (for the curious, yes, I chrongraphed them - a large extreme spread on THAT ammo's velocity, LoL!) and live to tell about the sudden stop... I would not (and do not) worry about it. (60 mph is about 88 fps, IIRC, so 200 fps would be about 136 mph)<br><br>It was a darned good question, though.<br><br>I keep a cotton ball on top of the matches in my safes also, but it is only there because I find the rattle of loose matches annoying.
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#9346 - 09/30/02 05:58 PM
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Here in Germany they only sell the all sensitive variety. So the friction between the heads can ignite the matches (yes, I tried this too). But itīs not easy to strike them that way. I also doubt that the matches will be ignited in the safe by friction or impact.
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#9347 - 10/01/02 06:59 PM
Re: Survival Keychains
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Journeyman
Registered: 01/22/02
Posts: 54
Loc: Raleigh, NC
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Looks like it would be useful, but I doubt I'd buy one. Why not?<br><br>I probably carry a bigger keychain than most, but I already have a Leatherman Micra, Photon 2, and (gasp) keys. I use a "decorative" carabiner (lots of companies give them out for free) so I can add and delete items as necessary. So, if I throw on the Mini Fox 40 (soon to be filed down) from my pack and the compass/themometer from my jacket, I'm almost there. Just have to add the P-38 and a "spy capsule".
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