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#93267 - 05/02/07 04:30 AM Re: Nobody had a knife [Re: MDinana]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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I was a highway cop for 30+ years, and the only times I ever had to cut anyone out of a seatbelt was when the vehicle was overturned, and it was very difficult to try to hang on to them while reaching under them to find the buckle. I never saw a jammed buckle, but did see one from time to time that failed to stay buckled after impact...
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#93269 - 05/02/07 04:33 AM Re: Nobody had a knife [Re: wildman800]
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Last private aircraft crash I was at, all four occupants were ejected, still belted to their seats. The seats themselves were ripped from the craft...
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#93313 - 05/02/07 01:08 PM Re: Nobody had a knife [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Geezes, what kind of aircraft was it?
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#93317 - 05/02/07 02:00 PM Re: Nobody had a knife [Re: Frankie]
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I've never tried it, but if I needed to turn a plain edge knife into a seatbelt slicer I'd take a sharp knife and give it a toothy edge on coarse stone. From what I've seen, a polished edge slides on nylon webbing rather than biting in. A coarse toothy edge should allow it to bite in. Never tried it, that's why I bought the Spyderco Rescue. An Endura with a 50/50 blade should do a fine job and would be a good general purpose blade. OTOH, I EDC only plain edge knives. The serrated knife I have is in the truck console.
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#93322 - 05/02/07 02:28 PM Re: Nobody had a knife [Re: benjammin]
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Piper Cherokee if I recall correctly. It took off at night from a private airport, began a left turn, lost altitude, dug the wingtip in, and cartwheeled for a while. One passenger was still alive when I got there minutes later. She had more compound fractures than I could count, in places you are not supposed to see compound fractured, was thankfully unconscious, and died before I could even begin treatment...
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#93379 - 05/02/07 08:23 PM Re: Nobody had a knife [Re: snoman]
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Originally Posted By: snoman
I remember reading about a DUKW (an ex-navy amphibious vehicle) being used as a "tour boat" that sank in Hot Springs, Arkasas. Due to a full-length canopy, 13 people (three of them children) couldn't get out and drowned. A simple pen knife would've made short work of those plastic window. This nonsence of 'things' being bad has got to stop.


Interesting.........
I was dragooned into a trip on the river last year. Being paranoid about these things -according to the PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER.- I put my foot down about a couple of things:
1) We ain't sitting down stairs.
2) I'm taking my Ritter Mk1 with me.

If it went pearshaped I am going to:
a) Cut a hole in the sun canopy real quick (if Im have to).
b) Not fart about trying work out how the "security" tiedowns on the carley floats/liferafts work. The straps are going to meet their maker real quick.

Of course, this being the UK, I would have been nicked for possesion of an offencive weapon. Reasonable excuse or not.
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