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#93593 - 05/04/07 04:14 AM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: kevingg]
Chuck Offline
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Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 19
Loc: Summerville South Carolina
I recently replaced my aging flint/magnesium blocks. After carrying them and using them for many years they were in bad shape. I looked on ebay and found the flint rods, about 1/4 thick by about 4 inches long. Five for about $15.00. I also found someone selling magnesium shavings, a gallon ziplock full for about $10.00.
I now carry my flint rod and two match cases tied together. One match case has cotton balls/pj and the other has the shavings.
I have found that they light easy and a small pile of the shavings not only burns with a flame for several minutes but it leaves a red hot ember for about five minutes. The 4000 degree flame will light almost anything even if it is cold and wet outside.
I always carry a lighter, stick matches and lifeboat matches as well. Although the flint is my backup I find myself lighting my fires with it just for the practice.

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#93694 - 05/05/07 03:06 AM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: Chuck]
ironraven Offline
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Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
The problem with preshaved magnesium is that as it oxidizes, it gets harder to light. On a mag block, it is pretty much confined to the surface, like in aluminum, but when you have shavings, you mostly only have surface.
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#93712 - 05/05/07 11:02 AM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: ironraven]
Chuck Offline
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Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 19
Loc: Summerville South Carolina
I never thought about that. I will have to leave some outside for a while and test it again after it oxidizes.

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#93721 - 05/05/07 02:06 PM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: Chuck]
raiderrescuer Offline
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Registered: 10/04/04
Posts: 30
If space is available carry the Mag/Flint, better to have it and not need it than be in a situation of needing it and not having it.
When it comes to something as important as Fire, always have back ups to include PJ cotton balls, Fatwood etc.

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#93874 - 05/07/07 07:34 AM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: Schwert]
Trusbx Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 397
Loc: Ed's Country
Actually, I like the weak bond between the flint bar and the mag bar. I just pry out the flint bar, fashion a epoxy handle for one end and when the epoxy has dried and set, drill a lanyard hole and viola! your own firesteel for half the cost.....

I too don't care very much about the magnesium....

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#93932 - 05/07/07 07:21 PM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: Trusbx]
duckear Offline
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Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 478
I have never considered the mag bar 'bulky'

Easy firestarting is PJCB and a spark from something...sparklite, mag bar flint, firesteel, hot spark...whatever

The mag is a good little extra umpfffh for less than optimal natural tinder or I want to practice.

A mag bar and a 35mm film can of PJCB is a great minimal fire kit.

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#94187 - 05/09/07 07:28 PM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
joaquin39 Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 149
Loc: Philadelphia,Pennsyvania, USA.
Is it better to make some magnesium shavings before hand and keep them in a water proof container? or it is dangerous to have the magnesium shavings stored?

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#94188 - 05/09/07 07:30 PM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: joaquin39]
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Registered: 12/18/02
Posts: 1320
Loc: France
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#94210 - 05/09/07 08:25 PM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: kevingg]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
From personal experience:
Tinder-Quick tabs make a critical differance. Irrespective of which firesteel or magnesium block you use. They either take a spark directly or can be used to catch magnesium shaving. If you need to boost the initial thermal impulse.

Maya wood or fatwood is second stage tinder. It's excellent as a booster (as shavings),but I would not be happy relying on it in a shivering wet This Fire Light's The First Time Or I Am Dead situation.
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#94432 - 05/11/07 09:37 PM Re: firesteel or magnesium? [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
Brangdon Offline
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Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1204
Loc: Nottingham, UK
If you have Tinder-Quick, you don't need magnesium.
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