#92211 - 04/24/07 04:35 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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Cranky Geek
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You need filters for that kind of thing.
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#92229 - 04/24/07 05:59 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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well bedepends on the chemical structure of the contaminant. Many chemicals can be absorbed by activated carbon. As for petroleum based products, well they usually float...
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#92230 - 04/24/07 06:03 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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Charcoal picks up most of the VOCs, flocculation will get the suspended solids, and chems will precipitate out the TDS, adding other more desirable ones back in.
Distillation takes care of an awful lot of contaminants all at once, but is not a complete process. Some chems evaporate/condense at the same temp and pressure, so another treatment process is also required.
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#92252 - 04/24/07 07:28 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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I am NOT an expert!
I strain questionable water through tightly woven cloth (to remove garbage), then run it through a 2' x 4" activated charcoal filter (to remove chemicals), then I boil it for 20 mins, let it cool down and then add it to my stores.
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#92253 - 04/24/07 08:54 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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So most common pesticides would likely be removed through distillation and/or absorbed by charcoal? Don't know how relevant this website is but its an index of common pesticides (names and structure). Another question is, unless you're relatively close to a commercial farm, should you even be worried about pesticides in the water supply? here's the website: http://www.alanwood.net/pesticides/index_cn_frame.html
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#92303 - 04/24/07 09:46 PM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
[Re: kharrell]
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Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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What about drugs? People have been flushing their unused prescriptions for years - antibiotics, painkillers, birth control. See http://www2.ncid.cdc.gov/travel/yb/utils/ybGet.asp?section=recs&obj=food-drink-risks.htmfor the CDC's take on treating drinking water (aimed at travelers, but applies to any questionable water). I figure I could make myself sick worrying about all the crap in water, so I'll just add the water to my Jack Daniels.
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#92306 - 04/24/07 10:26 PM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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Cranky Geek
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I was assuming he wanted to be mobile. Distillation takes a little while and isn't so packable while in use, not in significant quantities.
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#92307 - 04/24/07 10:27 PM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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Cranky Geek
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Are you downriver?
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#92496 - 04/26/07 02:44 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
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"I am luck to live in colorado, so my water is fairly safe already."
There are a lot of mines in CO, and the mining chemicals have contaminated a lot of water.
Pretty country, though.
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#92502 - 04/26/07 03:06 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
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Typical Survival Victim
Registered: 02/10/07
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...and the mining chemicals have contaminated a lot of water... Yes, one river is dead for miles. No fish/plants, very sad...
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#92507 - 04/26/07 03:54 AM
Re: Drinking Water :Contamination
[Re: kharrell]
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Cranky Geek
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So would you say that water isn't contaminated? Just checking the logic of your statements.  Something like that, I'm not sure I'd trust it after filtering or even distilling. *shudders*
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