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most all of you are saying that the only time you would be willing to use a firearm to defend yourself or others is if you could see under ideal conditions? I guess then that means that if you get pepper sprayed, or debris in your eyes, or it is just too dark out


Not exactly. The situation is that they are starting in that condition. Effectively they were pepper sprayed before they ever went to the gun store. If they were on the firing range they would have to have someone point them in the direction of the target.