I agree totally. I never implied that calling for help was totally out of the question and I think there is a difference between a guy fumbling up and down Royal Arches and the "Valley Hardmen" mentioned in a previous post. The "hardmen" Glockaroo mentions are not weekend warriors and are in the business of pushing the limits of alpinism. Almost every climber and route mentioned are at the top of the difficulty scale not to mention grave V-VI big wall climbs. Comparing that to a novice being unpreparred on Royal Arches is like comparing a crash in NASCAR and an average driver in a car accident. They are not completely the same thing.

The point that I guess I made poorly is that if you are going to do things like rock climbing you should consider yourself on your own. Rescues are a luxury that have begun to be taken for granted. I was trying to convey a feeling that people like Vic need to take more responsiblity for themselves when undertaking risky endeavors.

Being that I am not an elite climber that is pushing the envelope of the sport I expect myself to stay out of harms way by planning and acting responsibly. If I totally failed at that or had a terrible turn of luck and someone was in danger I would call or go for help. I never said it was out of the question.
I am not too stupid to admit defeat but I still think Vic cashed it in real easily because he had the luxury of rescue.

I think I have both made my arguement and apologized for coming off as arrogant. If that doesn't satisfy everyone so be it.
Somehow we have gone from an inexperienced climber blowing a grade III climb to comparing it to rescues from grade V-VII climbs and North Pole expeditions.