uh... depending on the tone set (which unfortunatly is hard to see), these gun topics are starting to get a little bit on the personal side and a little to much about politics, in my opinion. Stop flirting with the rules:
http://www.equipped.org/rules.htm Actually, compared to some other gun threads that we've had in the past, the recent ones have been downright civil....

This one seems destined for closure though.....