Check out:Ted's Reply to the Gun-Free Zone Defenders

Well Said!

I was just reading that article on CNN's site!

I agree Nugent got it right! Gun free zones are like advertising to the criminals.

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I read the form here lots. I have never replied until now. This got me mad. The "media" is not "liberal" It is corporate owned. It is big big money. It is not liberal. Fox news liberal?

I own two firearms but do not parade that knowledge around. I think that CCW is okay. I do not like Ted Nugent, in my opinion, he is a bad spokesman for the gun industry. In my stronger opinion, he is an idiot. There are far better spokespersons who can represent the gun industry.

Please to not use the pejorative "liberal" here again. The real meaning of the word is not bad. Neither is the word conservative. The media is neither. They are money grubbing institutions.

Well, I agree that declaring a "gun-free" zone is kind of an exercise in futility at best, and outright madness at worst. Of course some paranoid schizophrenic loser with a death wish and a grudge against society is going to head right for a "gun-free" zone like a moth to a searchlight.

On the other hand, maybe the solution isn't to arm the entire country, but to find a way to prohibit the sale of guns to paranoid schizophrenic losers.

My problem with Ted Nugent's solution is that it seems to me, if everyone in the street is carrying a gun, there is a much greater risk of someone over-reacting and shooting an innocent person. Even undercover cops get shot by their own fellow officers, and they are presumably aware of the risk and trained in how to minimize it.

On the other hand, maybe he does have a good case that a certain number of responsible adults - principals and vice-principals, for example - should perhpas have access to firearms and proper training. And teaching students that when a psycho stops to reload his Glock, that's probably the best opportunity to get together and beat the YKW out of him.

Now Nighthiker we can't have that. The next thing that may lead to is a potential rapist pausing for a moment before he attacked some co-ed and thinking to himself "man, what if she has a gun?"

Also still looking for the sarcasm smiley...

+1 for the Nuge!

uh... depending on the tone set (which unfortunatly is hard to see), these gun topics are starting to get a little bit on the personal side and a little to much about politics, in my opinion. Stop flirting with the rules: http://www.equipped.org/rules.htm

deleted - I was getting into Politics & deleted. Too good of a site to get kicked off. Sorry.

Actually, compared to some other gun threads that we've had in the past, the recent ones have been downright civil.... This one seems destined for closure though.....

As soon as we start looking at changing the environment that allowed this survival situation (shooting) to take place we immediately end up in the politics arena. But I understand why we don't want to go there...

As the one who started it can I delete the entire thread? don't see that option...

Noone here that I have seen has attacked anyone else in a personal manner it is a discussion and a debate about items that are dominating the news here in the US this week. Being prepared to survive means surviving in all sorts of conditions and prepared for various threats and that includes the threats of gunmen opening fire in public places which has happened not only in Virginia this week, but in a mall in Utah in recent months, several places of employment in states including Texas, Florida, and Ohio that I can recall in the past several months and as I type this right now there are reports of an armed gunman who has barricaded himself inside one of the NASA buildings in Texas.

You're right Micah, this issue is actually an anti-gun/pro-gun issue but unfortunately because the two sides breakdown right along the line of the two political agendas in this country it is impossible to seperate the two. But I agree it is definitely an appropriate survival situation to be discussed and prepared for given the number of incidents over the last year in Virginia, Utah, etc.

The comments that I thought might get the thread locked have already been deleted. If there are any others I'm sure CK will let us know.

Seriously, I know what you mean about how easily certain topics can stray into the political. Been there myself many a time. I think it is a testament to the people on this board that such things can occasionally be discussed without descending into the absolute, hard-core hostility that you might see at other websites. Maybe it's a good thing to have it out (in a polite way of course) whenever something like the recent murders occur. Kind of like a safety valve. ........

Just the fact that your on this sight means you are at a minimum thinking about being prepared in the event of ....? So our preaching to the chior should be taken with a grain of salt.
None the less... Our natural, god given right to self defense, is not a mandate that all be armed. If you choose to, I do, great for you. If you choose not to, fine. The assumption that I am favoring right now is that there are a great deal more good guys, than bad guys. Therefore, if a prudent, trained, and concealed weapon carrier were more likely to be randomly available, it would cause the small minority of nut cases to think twice. Gun free zones, are like bullseyes to these types, and gun free zones, definately must be minimized. Some, very few, gun free zones are potentially necessary, but even the court house exemption is curious to me. Concealed carry reciprocity needs to be federal law. Ted Nugent rocks, and we, the 2nd ammendment advocates need all kinds.

That right there is an absolute fact.

Imagine what our society would be like if the public school system were dedicated to producing educated good citizens as opposed to shoveling out meaningless diplomas.

I'm thinking there would be a dramatic improvement in our quality of life.

I'd lock the thread, but why bother? I made a private bet I could predict the mantras rolled out like overused anatomy class cadavers. Liberal media made it in the very first post. I made $5.

When we go into the bush, we go prepared for a worst case senario, right? So, why would we not go into a "civilized", e.g. urban, suburban, environment prepared for the worst? Even if this means carrying a side arm?
Ben

Sigh. I consider myself liberal, and I've been lurking on this site since shortly after the WTC attack. Don't brush me off with the name-calling, please.

This is a good point -- I know folks from both sides of the aisle; some have firearms, some don't.

The beauty of this country is free speech. Ted Nugent can say what he wants and Rosie O'Donnell can say what she wants. Et al...

Um, one thread I don't want to contribute to now, other than to say that:

The Nuge rocks!!!


and he is a pretty good shot, too.

Uncle Teddy is definitely a good entertainer. Ya gotta respect a man who rides a big bison out on stage. Maybe not his politics, but he will always be the motor city madman.

Meidia Liberal??? Obviously you never watch Faux News. Their idea of political center is Atila the Hun!

Not so cleanly divided. I am a liberal. I am a gun owner and a very strong supporter of the first and the second ammendments. I will grant that more liberals seem to be anti-gun than pro-gun, but it isn't that well defined. Plenty of my liberal pals have the same views on firearms as I do. The gun backlash regarding the incident at V-Tech horrifies me. As far as the "liberal" media - with the exception of the media seeming to attempt to inflame the gun issue (and I think big money has a definite agenda there) I don't see it. The media is controlled by money. Big money is generally conservative, except when it suits their purposes - but now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go put on my tin-foil hat.

Not anymore. Look at Ted Turner and George Soros. Even Rupert Murdock is supporting Hilary Clinton. What's the world coming to?