Is that what you said to Middendorf when he and his Valley friends got plucked from Half Dome? Should they have refused the helicopter rescue and allowed themselves to die on the wall in the spirit of personal responsibility?

Did you express similar disdain to Russ Walling's face when he and Erikson got plucked from Native Son due to poor decisions regarding basic storm gear?

Should Takeda and Perrin have refused escape on Epperson's rope when they got thrashed on Sunkist?

All were Valley hardmen (most with extensive YOSAR time) and they all would have died (their words, not mine) without outside rescue.

You elitists are tough guys until it's your life on the line.