Originally Posted By: Arney
Originally Posted By: aligator
Hi Arney, I don't know the conditions of his incarceration, but I would bet he's being isolated in the hospital wing.


Hi, Jim. Yes, he's in the secure ward at the county hospital, but the thing is, he's being treated like a prisoner in solitary confinement. He/his ward is under guard. He has no windows, is never let out of the room, has to use bath wipes for personal hygiene because they won't let him go to the showers, and had his TV, radio, computer, phone taken away. He has no visitors, but it's unclear if that's because they aren't allowed or because he just doesn't have anyone to visit him.

Ever see the episode of the TV show 30 Days where the host volunteers to be put into prison for a month, including solitary confinement? He was in solitary for only 72 hours, but even in such a short time, he really noticed how it messes with his mind by the end of the 72 hours. This poor Daniels guy has been by himself roughly 8-9 months like this! Remember, he's not convicted of any crime. He's a patient in a hospital. At least in Typhoid Mary's time, there were entire hospitals set up for quarantine, so Mary Mallon could interact with other people, walk around, look out the window, etc. (Not that I would want health conditions where entire hospitals are necessary for quarantine purposes, of course. wink )

Originally Posted By: aligator
I wouldn't want him free in society. His irresponsible behavior simply presents too much of a danger to be allowed to continue.


I agree. I was just making the point, based on the limited information in the original news story, that there was the possibility that he was locked up rather..."unfairly" is the only word I can think of at the moment. I mean, based on the original article we were referring to in the original post, it wasn't clear if he really clearly understood the need to wear a mask, was he ever warned and given another chance to comply before being locked up, etc. But after reading some more articles, it's pretty clear that he understood the instructions, was told more than once, but still didn't comply. So, I agree, for the public's sake and his own sake, detention and treatment seem warranted.




I certainly hope this guy has a good attorney or one in his state hears about his story and tries to help him. Speaking as an attorney myself, assuming that your descriptions of the treatment and conditions that this man is being held under are correct, it could very easily be argued to be cruel and unusual punishment and a violation of his civil rights. I am NOT saying that he should be free to walk around in public to contaminate everyone else however I know death row felons that have more rights and liberties than this man is being shown and this guy has never been convicted of a crime. For that matter, most of the GITMO detainees have more rights and liberties than this man.
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