understood ironraven..the pocket survival tin was never intended (for me at least ) to be a stand alone survival kit..but as a last ditich kit if i lose everything else, as it has the bare bones items to survive...i base my survival kits on the british S.A.S theme of a survival tin,clasp knife, compass in your pocket on your body...the survival pouch with more items of kit on a web belt with water bottle and sheath knife hanging on the belt..lastly i have my ruck/patrol pack with still more items.... i try not to have all my eggs in the same basket but spread around in my kit....vince g. 11b inf....