OK Folks...an exercise...

I like Nalgene bottle kits. Perhaps it is because the water container issue is solved immediately. Several pre-packaged kits are now on the market.

As you might imagine, most of the available bottle kits seem lacking. For instance...a survival light is not a cyalume stick. Sure, they're useful. But I'd rather have a Photon Freedom...or even a Fauxton instead!

Container...in order to use the container for liquid, you must remove the contents and find a way to carry them. Small nylon lunch bags don't take up much space...even a ziploc.

So...let's play... how would you stock YOUR Nalgene bottle kit. You have a liter/quart of space to play with. Obviously anything in a PSK would fit. But here you have more space...

My first choice would be just to fill the bottle with water,put a metal cup over it and carry a PSK seperately. Would a kit with the bulk of a 1l. nalgene still be a PSK?? hmmm...

Anyway, this is what I'dd put in there:

-Metal cup over the nalgene
-about 2m. of duct-tape wrapped on the bottle
-knife,SAK of something alike
-3m. paracord
-photon II microlight
-10 water-purifying tabs
-10 wind/waterproof matches
-chap-stick
-energy bar
-AMK heatsheet
-AMK Pocket Survival Pak or similair contents
-mesh drawstring-bag for putting in the contents when using the nalgene

As you can see, no FAK-supplies. Maybe a bandanna would fit to?

This is a link I found when googling: http://www.tadgear.com/x-treme%20gear/tad_gear_bug_out_bottle.htm

I would fill mine with water.
Not a fan of the bottle PSK.

Thanks, but I think folks may be getting a little hung up on the PSK-side and maybe see this as an either/or situation. We discuss everything from PSKs, FAKs, BOBs, Trunk Kits, Home kits, 72 hr, etc. Basically these can be any configuration you wish. I hope people did not take the above to mean replacing a pocket PSK with a one-quart bottle system. As a container, I think the 1 liter bottle is a great thing. I carry mine daily...in an OR parka. In fact, I even carry a few full to work daily. If it came right down to it, a condom, breast milk bag, etc are great in a pinch, but to be honest, I'm always carrying a 1 liter Nalgene and I'd be using it. They're extremely durable...I still have some in rotation after 15 or so years. Additionally, my cube at work could harbor just such a kit and not want for space. Again, stuff in a PSK like fishing gear I wouldn't be using at work, or even to get home in an emergency. I work a good distance from my home...sometimes a great distance. I have multiple layers (and redundancies) of EDC for home and away. These can be effective modules. Additionally, I carry extra. In an emergency I have given out items. I got a good deal on these lexan bottles a while back and use them for storage anyway. I now wish I'd bought more. I hate to sound like a cheerleader, but my packouts are incomplete w/o 1 liter lexan nalgenes. Packing the bottles just allows me an even more efficient use of space.

BTW, REI used to make a bottle jacket like the one they now have at:

http://www.rei.com/product/402189

that had a drawstring enclosure rather than elastic. Does anyone still see the drawstring type out there anywhere?

I use a Nalgene for a container in my car kits. Each car has a bag with blankets, tools, etc. The bag has limited pockets and it annoyed me that little stuff was migrating all over. I settled on organizing in a Nalgene because of possible dual use...

In the Nalgene, I have

- Inova X1
- 2 AA Batteries
- Paracord (~12') (wrapped around bottle)
- Duct tape (inside bottle)
- Bandana
- Mini-Bic
- Cheapy Match Case w/tinder
- Cheapy Match Case w/Strike anywheres
- Mora (Clipper I think, strike that, it is #2)
- Sometype of AMK survival blanket

It is a tight fit... I was planning to squeeze in water purfication tablets at some point.

I have Nalgene bottles in the trunk and in my earthquake kit at home.
If I am in the wilderness I will have some sort of dedicated water container. Very likely at least one Nalgene qt bottle.

I just don't see using the bottle as a PSK container (most of the commercial kits are junk; excluding TAD Gear but that one is pricey) because as soon as you need it you have to empty the contents and start putting them in pockets.

I keep my survival gear(and all my gear) pretty simple and I find that I carry less gear than many other ETS members in general. My main survival kit was built around rock climbing. This kit needs to be simple because there is not any place to carry a bigger kit. I don't carry a Nalgene climbing because I now I usually use a Camelbak when I climb.
The PSK needs to be able to fit in a small Camelbak pocket or in my shorts pockets. This makes one very efficient at keeping the kit small. This affects my philosophy on survival kits in gerneral.

Here is what I carry climbing.
A PSK in a Aloksak containing
Photon Freedom
6 MP1 tabs
4 Quick Tinder
Sparklite
6 REI storm matches and striker wrapped in plastic wrap.
Fox40 micro
Rescue Flash Mirror
1 gallon freezer bag
Suunto Gem compass
1 Ben's 30% deet wipes
1 single use sunscreen
1 extra battery for BD Ion headlamp (headlamp in Camelbak)
1 Emergen-C
2 4X4 non stick dressing
2 knuckle bandages

In my Camelbak is
BD Ion Headlamp
AMK HS Bivy
Ultralight Balaclava
Bandana

On my Harness is
Plenty of cordage (rope, webbing etc.)
Spyderco Ladybug partially serrated
A roll of medical tape (for taping hands and fingers as well as 1st aid)

In my pockets
BM Minigrip (maybe a Ritter)
Bic mini

I like the idea of a Nalgene kit for the car, along with a blanket, as a minimal kit.

The little orange bag that the Heatsheet comes in to carry the smaller gear later on.
A Ritter PSP and an AMK Pocket Medic, both removed from thier respective pouches, less the mirror, aluminum foil, frensel lense and the duct tape (they just don't fit).
A bottle of PA
A metal cup under the bottom of the bottle
Photon or similar
Vic Huntsman SAK
hotspark or similiar
2x 3x3 gauze pads (or 4x4s if I can make them fit)
mini bic with a zip tie under the plunger
duct tape wrapped around the bottle (replaces what is lost from the PSK)
a few more tinder quiks
a spool of waxed dental floss
6 or so zipties
two or three 20s, and some quarters
A minibinier with a couple of spare split rings, clipped to the cover strap, to attach the hot spark, Photon and whistle to the SAK after the kit gets opened, and to anchor it in the car to an unused seatbelt, back of the passenger headrest or similiar point
A spare watch cap pulled over the whole thing

If I'm allowed a pouch I'd also want the metal top of a carefully opened coffee can (lid for the cup), the mirror, foil and frensel lens along the bottom. Maybe a coil of line (probably Triptease or of similiar weight).

Alternatively, I might try the rectangular Nalgene. Easier to pack the flat, wide items if it is in a pouch, but with the aluminum foil returned as I've never found a tin that will fit the bottom of this thing properly. If I did that, I would really want a couple of 4x4s in a freezer bag.

the nalgene bottle kit is just to big and clunky... and for some folks that kit is the only thing they have seen in regards to wilderness survival items/kit... they my not know of other kits and container's out there that are smaller and have more usefull items in it... i'll stick to my P.S.K survival tin which has a water bag inside,not big and clunky...vince g. 11b inf...

I keep a small Altoids tin PSK in my hiking shorts pocket at all times. And a Nalgene bottle bigger kit in my daypack/backpack.

Here's what I have in that Nalgene kit:

32oz smoke colored Nalgene bottle
Fitted metal cup nestled on end of bottle
Neoprene sleeve to hold cup to bottle, has attachment loops and drawstring
Aluminum foil, heavy duty
Aquarium airline tubing (for water seeps)
Bandaids, medium
BIC butane lighter
Can opener, P38
Candle, large (5/8" x 5")
Candles, trick birthday (can't blow 'm out type)
CMG Infinity LED light, red, 3rd generation (?), (but not the Ultra)
Compass, Silva inexpensive baseplate model
Cotton balls with vasoline, inside sealed plastic drinking straws
Dental floss, on sewing machine bobbin
Duct tape
Emergency info card (address, meds, allergies, relatives, etc.)
Firesteel, large, Swedish Army model
Hacksaw blade, 3", for use with firesteel
Fish hooks, sinkers, swivels, fishing line
Fresnal lens, in protective sleeve
Kite line, braided, 50# test, on sewing bobbin
Knife, 3-1/2" Coldsteel folder
Knife, 1-1/2" folder
Matches, wooden kitchen, in waterproof case
Needle, heavy duty, with thread
Waterproof paper
Paracord (550), bright orange, 25 feet
Pencil
Pencil sharpener (to shave twigs into tinder)
Ranger bands (made from bike innertube), qty 10
Safety pins, large
Starflash signal mirror, 2"x3", in protective sleeve
Sugar candy, 4 pieces
Water purification straw (good for 20 gallons)
Water purification tablets, iodine, unopened bottle
Whistle, Fox40
Wire saw, heavy duty
Wire, solid, 24 gauge, on sewing bobbin