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#90007 - 03/31/07 05:54 AM Re: Trauma bag [Re: SARbound]
ironraven Offline
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Don't discount this too quickly. My brother is a volunteer firefighter, and he's had gear stolen out of his rig at fire scenes.
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#90017 - 03/31/07 09:55 AM Re: Trauma bag [Re: ironraven]
JIM Offline
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I once heared a story from my CPR-instructor who has had about 3 resusitations so far. She removed her arm-bracelets and laid them on the ground next to her. 2 times the bracelets were stolen! 3 time she put them in her purse and clamped the purse between her legs.

You've got to wonder what's wrong with people sometimes... frown


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#90024 - 03/31/07 12:11 PM Re: Trauma bag [Re: smitty]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Galls.com

I personally don't buy my bags from them, but the have a wide selection. You can also try Dyna-med. The nice thing about Galls is they have black versions of some bags, w/o the SOL. Also, duffels, backpacks, fanny packs, you can order supplies, etc. If nothing else, it can give you some direction. Also, at least in the US, I believe it's some sort of crime to have the Star of Life if you're not certified EMT or emergency service provider. One of the places I worked was joined with the campus police, and one day they brought in a nice cache out of some guy's trunk after they had pulled him over. It mysteriously got confiscated onto our ambulance.

I've only worked urban rigs, so couldn't tell you about a good FAK back pack.

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#90029 - 03/31/07 01:06 PM Re: Trauma bag [Re: MDinana]
Chuck Offline
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Registered: 02/24/07
Posts: 19
Loc: Summerville South Carolina
For my family storm kit I have a very large kit I got from Galls. For the kit in my truck I use a fishing bag that I got at Wal-mart for $25. If you buy from Galls and the like you are going to pay way too much.
I like the Flambeau bag in a prev. post. A similar bag from Galls will cost you four times as much and the only difference is a reflective emblem.

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#90047 - 03/31/07 04:36 PM Re: Trauma bag [Re: Chuck]
big_al Offline
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Registered: 01/04/06
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Loc: 20mi east of San Diego

You might try some of the fire packs (they come in red) this site will give you an idea as to what is avilible.

www.firecache.com
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#90080 - 04/01/07 01:52 AM Re: Trauma bag [Re: big_al]
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Registered: 07/19/05
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Loc: Arizona
Check out Conterra for medical and Trauma bags

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#90085 - 04/01/07 02:41 AM Re: Trauma bag [Re: JIM]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
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Originally Posted By: JIM
I once heared a story from my CPR-instructor who has had about 3 resusitations so far. She removed her arm-bracelets and laid them on the ground next to her. 2 times the bracelets were stolen! 3 time she put them in her purse and clamped the purse between her legs.

You've got to wonder what's wrong with people sometimes... frown

My question is why the hell(!!!) is she taking her bracelets off??? The patient only has a few minute window, and her jewelry need are killing folks, or at the very least, not helping them. And why a purse on scene????

--From a guy with over a dozen!

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#90096 - 04/01/07 04:57 AM Re: Trauma bag [Re: MDinana]
ironraven Offline
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Guy keels over in a crowd, say at work or in the grocery store or just walking down the street? Unless you are a wacker you won't have much with you. That's probably why she had the purse.

As for why to shuck your watch/bracelets: if you see them go down, you do that AS you are assessing, it only takes about 10 seconds. And guess what- unless you are doc, an ME, or in certain jurisdictions a PA or paramedic, you can't stop once you start. Otherwise, it's malfeasance of duty under the law. It is better to never, every start from a legal point of view than it is stop before you've handed them off. In the state of Vermont, I'm not sure if it criminal, but I know you've just waived your rights and privileges against civil action if you start then stop before being relived. So in a rural area that means you might be pumping and blowing for the next 20 minutes, half an hour, however long it takes to get a rig there. If you've been doing compressions with something like a watch around your wrist, odds are you've started to cut off the circulation to that hand.

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#90117 - 04/01/07 02:13 PM Re: Trauma bag [Re: SARbound]
Polak187 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 1403
Loc: Brooklyn, New York
For the basic stuff you are mentioning this bag may work but it also depends on the amount of supplies you want to carry. One of my ambulances has a similar bag stocked and it fits fair amount of gear with no room to spare for anything. But there are ways to save space on med supplies by using sam splints except board splints and smaller 250cc irrigation bottles instead of big 1L ones.

Look at some of the stat packs equipment. I managed to get one of the small backpacks and squized enough stuff in there to work up almost anything.

Cheaper bags like the one seen in your post when exposued to cold temperature and other elements (read trunk junk) tend to age very badly. Reflective stripes peel and crack, zippers jam and break, straps get stiff and buckles break. If you want something really cool that I saw couple of coaches use try range bag (5.11 or Maxpedition). Rectangular free standing bags with compartments for everything.

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#90131 - 04/01/07 04:30 PM Re: Trauma bag [Re: ironraven]
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Actually, in the states that I am familiar with, once you start you don't stop until relieved, OR until you are exhausted and can not continue. You can not just start, then after a few minutes decided that the victim is a gonner and stop for that reason alone. Having done CPR on more people than I care to remember, and for as long as 30-50 minutes, I can tell you that it is a very tiring process.

As far as watches go, I never removed mine, and never noticed a big problem with it, but that was just me. I am numb most of the time anyway...
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