#89834 - 03/29/07 05:50 PM
Long-term water storage.
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Here is a topic I have been concerned about. I live in Galveston County Texas and we have been waiting for a major hurricane for years and after bugging out two years ago for Rita, I have been serious about my preparation to either run again or hunker down and ride a storm out. This site has been very helpful and I think I am prepared. I have been wondering how long water should be kept before changing out? I am using the 7 gallon Aqua-tainers for some of the water. There are 4 of us in the family and really need much more. I am a homebrewer ( always plenty of beer for a disaster  ) and have about twelve 5 gallon stainless cornelius kegs available. They are virtually indestructable and fairly easy to use and carry. My thought is to keep about 6 filled up with water at all times and maybe push CO2 or oxygen through them from time to time to keep them fresh. Anyone see issues here and any opinions on the safety and how long the water would stay good for consumption???
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#89845 - 03/29/07 07:04 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
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My stepdad used to work for a water company (I can't remember which one, but I'll ask him just so if I quote this in the future I can be accurate) and has a friend who handles water treatment for the county (dauphin, pa). The question he posed this treatment guy was "how long will tap water be storeable".
The response was basically several years. Now he said you'll get a thick sludge on the top or bottom of the water which you will want to separate away but the rest should be safe for drinking.
From what I've read on water purification this comes from fluc or coagulants.. these may be local to our area. From what I've also read it seems like you would want to go the extra mile and disinfect it upon taking it out of long term storage like this.
This is not an end all be all answer, though I thought some of you might find this information interesting.
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#89847 - 03/29/07 07:07 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: norad45]
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"Have bottles & bleach, will store water.." I was about to search the forum about that kind of info : how much bleach to add per gallon of water, because I have now a few 5liters bottles at hand (that's 1.32 US gallon bottles). So, I should use 1/5th of tea spoon.... let's see...  Anyway I don't have tea spoons, only coffee spoons.... or rather dessert spoons... Not really scientific measurements..  May be I should search the forums (IRC, there have been many threads on that subject) and try to find a measure in drops ?? 
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#89849 - 03/29/07 07:28 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: frenchy]
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I found this: “Add 16 drops of bleach, or 1/4 teaspoon, per gallon of water and stir.” http://www.wisc.edu/foodsafety/consumer/fact_sheets/storingwater.htmI think I tried 16 drops/gallon at first and when I opened the jug 6 months later the chlorine smell was very strong, so I cut back. You may want to do the same if your water is heavily chlorinated already. For 1.32 US gallons you'd add 21 drops.
Edited by norad45 (03/29/07 07:31 PM)
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#89851 - 03/29/07 07:36 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
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Stored properly, clean water should remain potable for years and years without any interim treatment. It'll taste flat by then, but that's a taste issue, not a health issue. But just to be safe, you should probably treat the water once you start using it, but you shouldn't have to be overly paranoid about year-old water versus month-old water.
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#89852 - 03/29/07 07:43 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: norad45]
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Loc: League City, Texas
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A Corny keg is fairly lite in weight; I would think around 5 pounds empty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_kegsCornys have handles on the top and they are quite managable I have a ton of glass carboys and generally keep them filled with iodophor and water when not in use. They are way too heavy to move around. Adding bleach is a problem on stainless; can cause corrosion and pitting of the stell. We generally use iodophor to sanitize the kegs. Thanks for the feedback. Mike
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#89854 - 03/29/07 07:56 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: frenchy]
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8 drops of chlorine bleach per gallon of water. store in a cool dark space for best results.
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#89856 - 03/29/07 08:02 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: MrDrysdale]
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Adding bleach is a problem on stainless; can cause corrosion and pitting of the stell. We generally use iodophor to sanitize the kegs.
I wonder, would the relatively small amount of chlorine already present in some tap water cause corrosion? It would be interesting to know if a small additional amount could then be added for storage without causing a problem.
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#89858 - 03/29/07 08:09 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: MrDrysdale]
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Registered: 09/15/05
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Loc: California
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Adding bleach is a problem on stainless; can cause corrosion and pitting of the steel. We generally use iodophor to sanitize the kegs. Clean water stored in sanitized kegs should be fine as-is for a good long time. You can avoid the corrosion issue by simply pouring the water into a different container and treating it in that container if/when you actually needed to use the water. Otherwise, just empty, sanitize, refill as you normally would when you're changing out the water. Sounds like excellent long-term containers for you and your family.
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#89861 - 03/29/07 08:14 PM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: NightHiker]
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you should probably treat the water once you start using it, I recommend the following treatment: 2 parts water 1 part rum a squeeze of lime  -sorry, couldn't help myself Thats my kind of sanitation! Internal!
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#89909 - 03/30/07 05:29 AM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: frenchy]
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Registered: 03/08/07
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Loc: Beer&Cheese country
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"Have bottles & bleach, will store water.." I was about to search the forum about that kind of info : how much bleach to add per gallon of water, because I have now a few 5liters bottles at hand (that's 1.32 US gallon bottles). So, I should use 1/5th of tea spoon.... let's see...  Anyway I don't have tea spoons, only coffee spoons.... or rather dessert spoons... Not really scientific measurements..  May be I should search the forums (IRC, there have been many threads on that subject) and try to find a measure in drops ?? A teaspoon is 5 ml. Go to a pharmacy, get one of those syringes for liquid tylenol that infants get. 1 milliliter would thus be 1/5th teaspoon.
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#89916 - 03/30/07 08:45 AM
Re: Long-term water storage.
[Re: MDinana]
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thanks for the info!
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