#89697 - 03/28/07 04:31 PM
Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
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I was wondering if anybody has tried one of these stainless steel 32 oz bottles instead of the nalgine bottles. I was thinking of upgrading the bottle/cup and going with a bottle by itself so I can carry water,boil water,use it as an emergency stove to boil soup or what have you, or even put a rock in it and tye a string to the loop in the lid and make a bear bell out of it. I mean you could get creative and polish the bottom for a signal mirror or start a fire with it ( http://wildwoodsurvival.com/survival/fire/cokeandchocolatebar/index.html ) I mean theres a lot of potentials. I know the Sig bottles have a coating in them to keep citric acid from messing them up, but as far as I know, these are steral. Stainless steel Bottle
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#89702 - 03/28/07 05:12 PM
Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
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The idea is excellent, although I would miss the versatility of the Nalgene bottle with cup.
I'd want to handle one before I would trust it.
Off the top of my head: - Is the bottom thick enough to withstand some abuse? - How well-formed are the threads (pressed or machined)? - Are the threads compatible with Nalgene lids (for screw-on water filters)? - Does the top reliably seal? Many cheap bottles look good, but leak. - Can the top be removed entirely (for cooking)? - Is there a way to attach some wire for over-the-fire use? The Sigg bottles have a neck that's perfect for this.
If someone buys one, a field review and close-up photos would be appreciated.
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#89704 - 03/28/07 05:18 PM
Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
[Re: falcon5000]
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Their site doesn't want to overload you with information, does it?
May I assume it's insulated? How wide is the neck? I think I've seen it before, but I have dialup, and I'm not going to wade through all their retailers to get info on it.
Sue
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#89705 - 03/28/07 05:19 PM
Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
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Paul810, I just noticed on there FAQ http://www.guyotdesigns.com/site/htm/bottles_faq.htmlAre the bottles insulated? Our double wall bottles will insulate your hot or cold beverage very well. If this is the case, then a fire would be out of the question and this thing would be useless, hence the search continues.... I may try to e-mail them and see if they have a non insulated version and see if I can get any specs.
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#89707 - 03/28/07 05:22 PM
Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
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Susan, I think your right, there insulated  and dougwalkabout there's got to be someone out there that sells one somewhere you'd think, that is non insulated and non treated like the Sigs
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#89719 - 03/28/07 07:27 PM
Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
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They make both double wall and single wall versions. When you look at the website's source code it lists the bottles as: "Standard 38oz Single Wall" "Shorty 24oz Single Wall" "Commuter 24oz Single Wall" "Backpacker 32oz Single Wall" Though, Falcon please still shoot them an e-mail to make sure they aren't coated. Why don't you try the Kleen Kanteen? That looks good as well, but I would prefer it to have a standard Nalgene style top.
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#89758 - 03/29/07 02:47 AM
Re: Stainless Steel 32oz water bottle
[Re: MDinana]
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Well, well, well! I stopped in at my favourite mountain shop today and, as luck would have it, these bottles had just been put on the shelves. So, I can give you my impressions FWIW.
The picture at the top of the thread is the "Backpacker" model. 32 ounce capacity. Single wall construction.
Price: more than twice that of a Nalgene Lexan bottle. (Ouch.)
To answer my own questions:
- Is the bottom thick enough to withstand some abuse?
Yes, absolutely. This thing is stoutly built, and would serve a long time. In fact, it's a lot heavier than I would like. The label says 12.3 ounces -- empty! I bet my Lexan Nalgene and canteen cup together are lighter.
- How well-formed are the threads (pressed or machined)?
Threads are machined, deep, and heavy duty. They would probably last forever.
- Are the threads compatible with Nalgene lids (for screw-on water filters)?
Yes, according to the label, they are compatible with screw-on water filters. I didn't actually try it out with Nalgene lids (no way to tell if it would seal).
- Does the top reliably seal? Many cheap bottles look good, but leak.
I didn't test it with water, but the top is very heavy-duty in look and feel, and inspires confidence. This is not a cheap knock-off item in any way.
- Can the top be removed entirely (for cooking)?
Yes. I didn't try, but it's held on with heavy cord. You may have to reattach it with your own paracord. I wasn't about to break it in the store.
- Is there a way to attach some wire for over-the-fire use? The Sigg bottles have a neck that's perfect for this.
There's a good deep lip below the threads that would accommodate several wraps of heavy wire. No problem there.
Would I trust one? Yes, I think so.
I would also want to hire a Sherpa to carry the thing for me.
Cheers, Doug
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