I found a bic one time when I was 12 or so. I put it on a large rock and hit it with another large rock. I couldn't hear for a couple of hours from the blast. Course, we also did the same thing to 22 shells that we had taken the lead out of.

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PM on it's way...

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I used to have the accessory pack from MREs (old ones)that had "water proof" matches, gum, coffee, creamer, sugar, and toilet paper in them that I told my kids and scouts that I gave them to were hunters packs. I explained if they used their knife to slit the top open it would work as a cup. The packets were about the size of a wallet and they put them in their back pockets. I can't find them any more the new ones don't have the TP in them. With a knife, and a mini light most scouts carried them.

Is there any where we can get just that pack???

Take Care and Stay Safe

You SHOULD tell them that if their life is in danger, to forget about minimizing the damage to the environment, and make the best shelter they can in the QUICKEST time they can!


Yes we should tell them that in a real world environment they do not need to worry, but for this merit badge, they should look at minimizing the impact. I got my WS Merit badge at summer camp. We had a number of scouts in the class and over 6 weeks of summer camp, that could be a lot of pine trees being used for bows to sleep on. I found a natural A frame that I was able to cover with downed leaves for over head shelter and more leaves for the bedding.

Ladies and Gents, Good Morning!

IMHO, adult or child, scout or not, train them to be able to satisfy the Rule of Threes ( 3hrs. without shelter/fire, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food) to the best of their ability, and equip them with the tools and they need to be successful.

Re. compliance: What ever happened to pre-event inspections?

I was a scout in the 60's and 70's. As a troop, we were lost several times (eventually found our way), had an adult leader have a psychotic episode at summer camp, accidental started a field fire (extinguished it before the FD got there) and spent many cold nights and ate many burnt pancakes, but i think what allowed us to get through it was the relationships and mentoring that was there. It really was a family.
They say a person is in part a product of their environment and what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. I wouldn't trade my time in scouting for anything, the good nor the bad.

Regards, Jim

Thanks, I just sent them an e-mail and will let you know if they are availble.

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Yes we should tell them that in a real world environment they do not need to worry, but for this merit badge, they should look at minimizing the impact. I got my WS Merit badge at summer camp. We had a number of scouts in the class and over 6 weeks of summer camp, that could be a lot of pine trees being used for bows to sleep on. I found a natural A frame that I was able to cover with downed leaves for over head shelter and more leaves for the bedding.
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You lucked out! My shelter kept getting taken apart, so that ultimately I had to go to a new location on the morning before our outdoor sleep-out. I ended up with a crappy half done A-frame type. Mind you, this was on an island of the CA coast (fog rolling in at night). And of course, about midnight, I find I'm sleeping on a red ant nest. Not the best of situations

Minimizing damage also has to do with fires. Sure, a forest fire gets people's attention, but...

You lucked out! My shelter kept getting taken apart, so that ultimately I had to go to a new location on the morning before our outdoor sleep-out. I ended up with a crappy half done A-frame type. Mind you, this was on an island of the CA coast (fog rolling in at night). And of course, about midnight, I find I'm sleeping on a red ant nest. Not the best of situations [/quote]

You were lucky you were in CA... In TX that could have been a Fire ant nest... Though I doubt that it would have taken until midnight for you to have found out!