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#88963 - 03/21/07 01:09 AM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one perso [Re: Johno]
raydarkhorse Offline
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Registered: 01/27/07
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When I'm camping or just out having a good time, I will share any part of my gear. In a bug out situation I might help you and give you some info but I won't give up my gear without a fight.
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#88979 - 03/21/07 04:27 AM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one perso [Re: Blast]
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Immoral and fun can be two totally different things...
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#88998 - 03/21/07 01:26 PM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one perso [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
Immoral and fun can be two totally different things...


Well, I suppose in theory that might be true... grin

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#89060 - 03/21/07 10:24 PM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one perso [Re: amper]
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Registered: 11/30/05
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Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
I consider carrying a little extra as an investment.

If something happens to my hiking partner because they are not as equipped as they "should" be, then it's going to fall to me to drag their butt out.

It's also a little cushion should Murphy chose to tag along (being the party pooper that he is).

There's a balance of course between me being the pack mule and the other person being responsible for his/herself.

I only hike with those I care about so the investment isn't a burden.


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#89078 - 03/21/07 11:53 PM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one person. [Re: unimogbert]
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 7
In the wilderness I often duplicate essentials and have whomever I am with carry them along. Some things such as bandaids, and aspirin and so forth are for sharing. My 10yr. old carries an emergency blanket, mirror, and now firesteel & tinder, a small Swiss army and a lanyard held photon light and whistle in addition to trail gear in a pack. The lanyard is "always, always on.
In a true survival situation I figure what you have is what you have be it myself or others and for me the smaller and lighter it is the more probable I'll have it so things like eating utensils are out.
I have to say, in the great outdoors, if you need it and I do not you've got it. If we both need it we will just have to share.....
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#89079 - 03/22/07 12:02 AM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one person. [Re: amper]
Lono Offline
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
My kits are all social.

My BOB sits at home and is tailored towards my immediate family needs, not just personal. I won't bug out without my family. Gathering family is part of my emergency plan.

My office and car kits are tailored towards getting me home, probably on foot ~7 miles, and contains the usual stuff people cite here. But they also include a supplement bag - a healthy supply of ABD pads, triangle bandages, cheap plastic ponchos, latex gloves, masks and other things I'm pretty sure I'll be using or handing out before I get home - there are 300 people in my office building alone, after a quake some of them will need to apply pressure, or worse. Many of them will exit the building coatless into PNW cold and rain. I'm not currently on a team tasked with helping them all, but I intend to help as many as resources allow. Until my employer stocks and prepares adequately, that's my commitment. Bought in bulk, these things are cheap, mostly non-perishable and worth having than not.

My home kits include similar provisions for neighborhood triage and assistance. I won't feed them all, but I have supplies and training to give basic first aid, set up a triage with others and some emergency shelter and warmth for at least immediate neighbors as necessary. Again, the community isn't organized for more than that yet, and government response could be days away. My 'community' kit reflects the commitment and training I can contribute if the shake happens tomorrow (think CERT).

The natural follow on to social kits is community preparedness - neighbors and office workers. I'm finding that slow going.

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#89450 - 03/25/07 05:02 PM Re: Carrying survival gear for more than one person. [Re: J_Michael]
aligator Offline
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Registered: 07/08/06
Posts: 96
Loc: NY
Ladies and Gents. IMHO there is a difference between equipping a dumb/lazy/ignorant... whatever person that continually under prepares for recreational endeavors,equipping to protect family members and others that either can't carry their own load (wife bad knees, daughter too young to carry much), and those that won't (wife), and preparing for rescues.

For recalcitrant others, I have a neighbor, older couple, pretty well off. On several occasions, I've helped them out by blowing their driveway after a heavy snow fall. I suggested they get a snow blower or contract with someone to plow their driveway. As of yet, they still shovel. Experience is a wonderful teacher, and if you face adversity often enough, most people will adjust. If not???

Rescue; How much can you carry, and in what scenarios would you rescue others? I'm an ex-EMT and an RN. I'm still trying to figure out how to carry a MASH unit in addition to all the other stuff (wife bad knees/non believer)that fill my bag. The conclusion I've come to is that I will never be able to carry enough to address everyones needs. I will equip and educate myself to reasonably answer my families needs and will help others when and as i can without compromising my families position. Regards, Jim




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