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| #86870 - 02/27/07 10:35 PM  Thoughts on Packs & Bags |  
|   Pooh-Bah
 
 Registered:  01/21/03
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As a self-professed "Bag & Pouch Addict" I have tried over the years to find the perfect bags and pouches. For the most part I have been disappointed in most of the packs and pouches I have owned, and of late, I've been getting rid of bags and pouches that I simply don't use. I've found that what's left all seems to share these basic design principles:
 Simple Construction - minimal, if any, interior specialty structures, key fobs, pen pockets, ipod sockets or other apparently task-specific construction elements. Some days I need to carry more than 2 pens. Other days I need to carry more than one laptop. Simple construction lets me organize the interior as I see fit.
 
 All Chambers Close with Zippers - Not velcro, latches, snaps, buckles, buttons, turnbuckles or lashing - just good, high-quality, sand-proof, user-proof Zippers.
 
 No Open-Top Chambers. Inversion, dropping and throwing a bag should not cause any contents to come out.
 
 Very Strong Materials & Durable Bottoms - My bags get dragged, thrown, dropped and rolled on cement, dirt, rocks gravel and snow. I don't like it when a simple drag over 12" of cement leads to a ruined bag.
 
 At least water-resistant, if not water proof. - This is a tough standard, but for me, it's grown into a must-have, I'd even settle for a single dry-section of a "normal" bag, but I don't want to have to find out that the bag I tossed up under the bow of the boat 3 hours ago during a body recovery search on the lake ago rolled back and landed in the bilge and now my maps, camera and batteries are soaked. A fully waterproof bag is a bit heavy and expensive if you have waterproof zippers, but a dry section would be great.
 
 Porta-Brace brand products are the closest I've found to meeting these requirements, Pelican also makes some really good bags these days.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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| #86873 - 02/27/07 11:13 PM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: Since2003] |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  09/30/01
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I'd never heard of Porta-Brace, so I did a google and checked them out.  They look pretty use specific, primarily camera type gear.  Do they have any regular old backpacks that I missed???
 I agree with your requirements above, tough and simple usually win out over fancy...
 
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| #86876 - 02/27/07 11:45 PM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: Since2003] |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  01/21/04
 Posts: 5163
 Loc:  W. WA
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Water-resistance being as important as it is, has anyone here regularly applied products like Scotchguard to their bags?  I understand that you have to do it every few months.  But does it work at least reasonably well under the conditions that Marty mentions?
 If not Scotchguard, what?
 
 Sue
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| #86880 - 02/28/07 12:09 AM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: Susan] |  
|   Old Hand
 
 Registered:  11/25/06
 Posts: 742
 Loc:  MA
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I have found that, for simplicity & ruggedness, tactical tailor makes good bags. I have a daypack that I've used for several years, and not in the most hospitable environments. The one I have has 4 pockets: an outside pocket, sorta like a map pocket; a middle pocket, whic is designed to put in stripped MRE's about 3 days worth (easily); and the main compartment, that can hold enough gear for several days. I have an older version of the one on this page: http://www.tacticaltailor.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=294 Mine has side compression straps, where you can also attach a couple of bags. there is an inner sleeve for a hydration system as well. It isnt waterproof, but, it is definitely rugged. |  
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| #86884 - 02/28/07 12:50 AM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: oldsoldier] |  
|   Addict
 
   Registered:  01/04/06
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 Loc:  20mi east of San Diego
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Martin you might look into Fireline gear.trywww.thielsen.net  or www.firecache.com   That will give you a good Idea of what is out there.  The Hotline pack is the one I use.  The bottom part for most of my Basic gear with room left over for addins, and the top part for longer deration problems (my BOB)
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| #86900 - 02/28/07 03:23 AM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: big_al] |  
|   Addict
 
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| #86912 - 02/28/07 05:15 AM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: duckear] |  
|   Addict
 
   Registered:  11/24/05
 Posts: 478
 Loc:  Orange Beach, AL
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I have several small to medium size Sealline dry bags that I use inside my primary packs.  I have rain flys for my packs that get used for backpacking/climbing/etc but I use the Sealline bags when I have more than rain to be concerned with. 
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| #87084 - 03/02/07 01:18 AM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: 7point82] |  
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 Registered:  02/13/07
 Posts: 17
 Loc:  NJ, USA
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I use a Kelty (www.kelty.com ) multi-day internal frame pack for my bug out bag (BOB).   It holds 2800 cubic inches, has a 2 liter hydration pack, and has an exterior shovel pocket and loop that can hold an ax, walking stick, or my rifle--although I don't ever use it for that because it bumps me on the bum when I walk    It has some mesh pockets on the side that I stick my ditch kit in.   I adore it.   |  
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| #87086 - 03/02/07 01:24 AM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: Susan] |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  09/30/01
 Posts: 5695
 Loc:  Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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I have sprayed my good ole M-65 field jacket with Scotchguard, and am not really impressed with it.  Leaves a funny odor, and I didn't notice any big difference in water repelancy (is that a word?)... 
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| #88452 - 03/15/07 05:37 PM  Re: Thoughts on Packs & Bags
[Re: Since2003] |  
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   Registered:  02/07/07
 Posts: 9
 Loc:  MD,USA
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REI - I feel makes the best bag for the bang. Much like you, I have gone through plenty of bags, and the ones that offer the most room and compartments are made to last for that day. 
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