In the NE USA, a permit is required to purchase a weapon and a permit is required to purchase ammo. Permits are required to store a weapon @ home and a permit is required to keep ammo @ home. A permit for each is required to transport weapon and ammo to wherever (range, woods, etc.) and to return them.

Basically the Yanks have figured out that since they can't prohibit weapons ownership under the Constitutional 2nd Amendment, they CAN regulate it to death.

The Liberals have already figured out that they can put a hugh-mongrous tax on each bullet and that would prohibit people from buying ammo. The same is true of weapons. They are merely waiting for their chance to get it passed.

Huh? Where did you get this info??

that's in NYC back in 1979-1981. That's why I left my weps in the south.

That must be a NYC thing only, because long guns and ammo are not regulated in the rest of NY state that I know of, and pistol permits are regulated by the individual counties. I do know that pistol permits are almost impossible to get in NYC.

Here is a quick ref to NYC laws. And while they seem very tight to most of us, they appear to be better than the Sulivan Law that used to be in effect there, if I recall correctly it totally prohibited possession of a handgun. At least now there appears to be a possibility of getting a permit for one...

Ain't it funny how some little piece of paper can control our lives, like trying to get the illusive concealed carry permit in NYC?

Well, if they can't see it, then they won't know I suppose. I ain't gonna waste time asking for permits for this'n that, which I won't be given anyways, when I've been toting mine for the past twenty plus years without a hitch. Permit or not, if I ever had to use one to defend myself, I always figured I'd end up in front of a Judge for doing it. Better to be branded a criminal for doing the RIGHT thing and taking care of me and mine, than to shrug at the wife and tell her the reason she's about to become a victim is cuz I'm not allowed to do anything about it, 'cept maybe die first.

Stupid laws for stupid people.

The way I always saw it, filing a permit application was my way of letting the local constabulary know what I was going to do whether he said okay or not. Not much he can do about it until it's too late anyways, unless I was real stupid about it.

Don't think it will be any different with knives once they start pushing stupid laws about carrying, and even owning, them as well. Just ask Doug...or anyone here in Australia, or England, or...except for people living in Baghdad, who are allowed to own personal firearms and BIG knives. How can a place under martial law have more self defense liberties than my own neighborhood back home???

Wow, I didn't expect to have the last word on this one...

True enough maybe. But if something takes your curret shelter you'll need to be somewhere...at least temporarily. A shelter may be an acceptible option.

The only way I'll ever be found in a public shelter is if I am too injured to keep somebody from dragging me there. I'd rather sleep in a debris shelter or a cardboard box than rely on a series of bureaucrats to make life and death decisions for me and my family.