I was playing around with my Pilot survival knife and some homemade ranger bands this afternoon. After putting a mini-bic on the side of the sharpening stone, I decided to look for a way to put tinder on the knife also. I found an old chapstick tube. I removed the remaining product and kept the threaded plastic cup at the bottom. After washing it, I put some vaseline soaked cotton in the container. It seems to work quite well. If you need tinder, just turn the knob. <br><br>I really need to go back to work. Ive got far too much time on my hands right now. smile