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#87509 - 03/06/07 01:11 PM Serration removal
ironraven Offline
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I've been looking around to replace my EDC folder for a while. I like my kerambit, but I'm sick of having to explain to sheep that it isn't a weapon but rather a utility knife developed by fishermen. (They get the point after I demonstrate that it's really hard to stick yourself in the belly if your boat gets hit by a big wave.)

I"ve been looking at the Vic one-handed Hunter, but I don't like the layout of the serrations. I know people have removed them, but I've never taken that much metal off a blade before. What would be needed?

In the same theme, does anyone know how hard G10 is to work with? If I do this, I want to rescale it with blaze orange scales and add a pocket clip.
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#87521 - 03/06/07 03:51 PM Re: Serration removal [Re: ironraven]
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I have never removed serrations, or worked specifically with G10, but I have done major reshaping on a wide variety of blades, starting with a file and working my way down to emery cloth then several different grit stones, and I can tell you that it is a lot of work. And, no matter how much thought you put into it before starting, including paper drawings and marking on the blade with a felt tip, sometimes you end up with a finished product that is not what you were hoping for. Mine often become throwing knives; throw them 'til they break (they usually do), then throw them away.

My suggestion-don't do it. Keep looking 'til you find one you like as is, or have a custom built...
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#87539 - 03/06/07 06:04 PM Re: Serration removal [Re: ironraven]
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Actually the kerambit is a weapon. I think you are thinking of a hawksbill blade when you describe using it on a boat.

I think Wenger is just coming out with a one handed SAK without serrations.

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#87552 - 03/06/07 07:27 PM Re: Serration removal [Re: billym]
ironraven Offline
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shhhhhhhhh- don't tell them that! You know and I know, but if I tell them that it is just the folding version of a traditional Indonesian utility knife, they feel smarter and safer and I get less funny looks. Just because the west sees it as a weapon, remember than nunchucks started off a grain flails.

Besides, you'd have a hard time proving that it wasn't first developed by sailors. Knifes are made of iron, and are expensive- the pinky ring keeps you from loosing it overboard. The curved blade gives you the advantage of a point but can't stab with a straight thrust- less likely to get the point in the belly. And the angle of the point gives you great power AND control for things like gutting fish, cutting line, etc. If you put your thumb along the side of the blade, you can control how deeply you cut much more safely than you can with a straight blade.

*sighs* What I really want is a two bladed folder with a hawksbill semi-serrated blade, a one handed drop or spear point blade, with being liner locks(!), a pocket clip and a pinky ring. It's just impossible to make.
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#87582 - 03/06/07 11:42 PM Re: Serration removal [Re: ironraven]
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I did it with two diamond stones and my one-handed Trekker. It came out great, but took forever. Luckily Victorinox serrations aren't that deep so it didn't hurt the blade much.




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#87586 - 03/07/07 01:05 AM Re: Serration removal [Re: Paul810]
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No loss of edge holding ability? The temper is my biggest fear.

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#87590 - 03/07/07 01:16 AM Re: Serration removal [Re: ironraven]
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It just so happens that I collect Swiss Army Knives. Though I've never tried to take out serrations myself, a lot of people know how to do it at a website I go to very often.

www.sosakonline.com

You could maybe get in touch with someone there and they would point you in the right direction. I've seen other people remove serrations on SAK's there and they look just fine, and from what they tell us on the forums they work very well and hold the edge.


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#87591 - 03/07/07 01:18 AM Re: Serration removal [Re: ironraven]
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Originally Posted By: ironraven
No loss of edge holding ability? The temper is my biggest fear.



Nope, blades of this type are tempered all the way through. As long as you don't heat it up too much you wont ruin edge holding ability at all. That is why the best way to sharpen it is by hand, it doesn't heat it up like an electric sharpener would.

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#87595 - 03/07/07 02:10 AM Re: Serration removal [Re: Paul810]
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That was my big unknown, because I know that a lot of knives aren't tempered all the way through.

DrmstrSpoodle, I checked what they had there, but I couldn't find a forum or anything similar.
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#87599 - 03/07/07 02:33 AM Re: Serration removal [Re: ironraven]
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Originally Posted By: ironraven
That was my big unknown, because I know that a lot of knives aren't tempered all the way through.


Yea, generally knives that are mass produced in large numbers are tempered the same way throughout. They basically stamp the blades out and stick them all in a big "oven" to heat them. smile

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