This is the stuff that I plan to carry in my Karrimor Sabre 30l. Can you give me advise on how to slim it down? Do you see any missing items?


Hiking kit:

1 Mora-knife
1 folding Saw
1 Sharpening-stone (v-shaped)
1 opinel no#7 (or similair knife)

1 pair of gloves
1 sun-hat (or ski-hat, depending on season)
1 bandanna
1 small bottle of sunscreen
1 small bottle of insect-repellent (50% DEET)
1 mosquito-headnet
1 pocket-size tin of Vaseline
1 ‘Sea to summit’ towel
25 desinfectant-wipes
1 bandanna
3 Brush-Away
1 pair nitrile gloves (for non-first-aid uses)

1 Large FAK:

- 1 hemocut
- 1 pair of illuminated tweezers
- 1 scalpel-blade
- 1 pair of tick-tweezers
- 1 click-away
- 1m duct-tape
- 1 triangulair bandage
- 1 quick-dressing no2.
- 6 safety-pins
- 18ml. desinfect-lotion (similar to Purrell)
- 2m medical-tape
- 1 gauze-roll medium.
- 2 ORS
- 10 Acethaminophen
- 10 Asperin
- 4 Immodium
- 7 antihistamine
- 6 glucose-tabs
- 4 Ibuprofen
- 1 ABD pad
- 2 quick-dressings no1.
- 1 ziplock
- 1 flexible thermometer
- 6 q-tips
- 6 gauze pads 1/16
- 30gr. Betadine ointment (tube)
- 1 syringe and needle
- 2 ampules of saline
- 2 pair nitrile gloves
- 1 assortment bandages (small,large,waterproof,fingertip,etc.)
- 6 alcohol-prep-pads)
- 6 Povidone-Iodine prep-pads
- 3 antibiotic-ointment packs.

1 LED-headlamp + 2 sets of extra batteries
1 photon-microlight
8 lightsticks (6x green, 2x red)
1 BIC-lighter
1 Fire-Steel Scout
25 Coghlan’s Wind/Waterproof matches + striker strip in 35mm film canister
15 Coghlan’s Emergency-Tinder and some cotton wool
4 small candles
2 ‘Camp-Heat’
1 Esbit-stove with extra fuel-tabs
4 disposable hand-warmers

1 Coghlan’s heavy-duty space-blanket
1 AMK Heatsheet Emergency Bivvy
1 hammock
1 poncho

1 1l militairy canteen
1 cup for canteen
1 Platypus 1l. water-bag (unfilled)
1 mess-tin
1 Spork
1 Vitamin C-drink powder 100gr. (2 l.)
2 O.R.S.
5 sweets
1 Cup a Soup chicken
1 energy-bars
1 roll of Dextro energy tablets
2 Kendall’s mint-cake
1 chocolate bar
3 tea-bags
50 micropur water-purifying tabs
1 BCB water-purifying straw
6 coffee filters
5 zip-locks (2x quart, 3x gallon)
1 HD garbage-bag
1 HD aluminium foil
1 fishing-kit
100m fishing-line
1 float for fishing-kit
50m waxed dental-floss
10m. Paracord
3m. Paracord
1m. Duct-tape (think I need more)
1 Flexible-saw
3m. Brass-wire
10 zip-tyes
1 carabiner-hook
1 small pouch:
- 1 small tube super-glue
- 4 nails
- 6 safety-pins
- 6 paper-clips
- 3 blanket-pins
- 50m. sewing thread
- 2 medium sewing needles
- 1 XL sewing needle
- 8 buttons
- 3 utility knife blades

1 Coghlan’s signalling mirror
1 Coghlan’s 4-1 Whistle
1 pencil
1 waterproof note-book
1 roll orange trail-tape
1 magnifying-glass
1 base-plate compass
1 map of local area

I add 2 more canteens if I go hiking and sometimes I also fill my hydration bladder. Food,fuel and clothing are added if I need it. The food listed, is a sort of 24-h emergency ration, as is the 1 militairy canteen.

I have a redundency survival pouch and a Leatherman-wave on the belt, as well as my EDC.

Unfortunately, no pics yet.

Thanks

- First what kind of hiking pack, it's a bit overkill for one day, to little on clothing, sleeping bag, etc for overnighters.
- you have ORS listed twice
- You got antibiotic ointment pack, betadine, alcohol swaps and betadine pads ?
- You really need two sets of batteries for you headlight? It should work a full week easily on one set alone. (one extra is gooed, but twice?)
- whats with all the light sticks?
- campheat and a esbit stove?
- Looking at you cooking power and kit and the coups and tea, are you sure? Not going to work without a windscreen and something beter dan a army cup or mess tin. Or be very patient...
- 10 meter paracord, 3 meter paracord?
- You got safetypins in FAK already, you really need them in you pounch too?
- Ever lost 8 buttons at one time?
- A leatherman on you belt, will be very uncomfortable to carry, if you use the hip straps. Considering the load, i would use the hip straps...



- something very basic and usefull. A spair fleece or similair to keep you warm. One of the first thing to grab.

JIM, this is a kit that I carry its weight is 6.5lbs. Take a look.





JIM I also dress for the weather and where a filson hat and gloves. Well take care and I hooe this helps you.

Bryan

HELLO..
where do you plan on hikeing?..i don't much about Europe
but i would think that in the Netherlands you would never
be far enought from help to need all that gear..
you do seem to have some overlaping gear..opinel knife..
trangle bandage and some i wonder why you would need..syringe
and saline..vaseline..and some that don't work very well..the
waterpurifying straw..but in the long run those are all small
items--yes..more duct tape..and i would take a real stove of
some type..a brunton gaz or primus type burner..
but it looks like you have the right idea..

As was in my post, it's a Karrimor Sabre 30l backpack and food/clothing is added as I need to. I'm not planning on spending the night, so no sleeping bag, allthough I do have a heatsheet-bivvy, poncho,hammock and hd- space-blanket to make a shelter.



That's right, 2 sachets in the food-kit, 2 in the FAK.



I have my FAK in a pouch that fits nicely in the backpack, so why not, allthough it's a little redundant.



Listed this wrong: 1 headlamp with batteries and a extra set.



3 of everything (in a triangle ) is the emergency signal, so I can still make only 2 signals with my light-sticks.



Will remove camp-heat.



That's what the hd Aluminium foil is for... And under normal contitions, I won't be cooking anyway. Know it sounds strange..



Actually, it's 30m. paracord. I don't want to cut up my 30m. piece if I only need 1meter, so that's when I use the 3m. piece.



They take up no space at all, and prevent turning on the illuminated tweezers in the FAK.



Once again, they take up no space what so ever.



I don't like the hip-straps and never use them, if I did, you would be right.

Thank you for your suggestions!

I like it, nice kit!

I also use his kit for practice, that it gives me a chance to test all the gear out.
Syringe and saline is used for flushing out wounds.
Vaseline is multi-purpose, lip balm, tinder, FA.
Why no triangulair bandage?

My _personal_ opinion is that you don't need all of the redundancy. There are a few things I don't think you really need. There are a couple of things I think could be replaced with better alternatives. I'm not sure I can follow the whole thing, but here are a few examples:

base plate compass and magnifying glass - you can get a compass with a magnifying glass built in. (redundancy)

orange trail tape (not needed)

Coghlan's 4-in-1 whistle - (better alternatives). You don't need the little doo-dads on the whistle. You already have the full-size stuff. I'd get a Fox 40 or, if you have an REI near by, get one of their little tube-shaped whistles. They are normally by the key chains.

Utility knife blades - (not needed)

blanket pins and safety pins - (redundant). Choose 1.

nails (not needed)

super glue (not needed)

8 buttons (don't need that many)

paper clips (not needed)

zip ties (not needed)

brass wire (not needed)

flexible saw (redundant) - you already have a folding saw

aluminum foil and garbage bag - (not needed)

hammock - (not needed)

Coghlan's space blanket - (better alternatives). The AMK 2-person blanket is a much better choice. It doesn't sound like you are wrapped in aluminum foil, it has a softer feel to it, it drapes around your body more easily, and it is bigger so you get better coverage.

Light sticks (not needed)

hand warmers (not needed)

fire starting stuff - you have three ways to start a fire, plus a stove and fuel tabs. (redundancy)

First aid kit - overkill. You can get by with a lot less. You need enough to get by, not enough to run the emergency ward at the hospital.

insect repellent and headnet - (redundant)

four knives - (redundant) One good knife is enough. If you really feel like you need two, okay. But I'd definitely get rid of the leatherman and the opinel.

Okay, I'm fading here. I think what I'll do is go get a cup of coffee and come back and just delete the stuff from your original list that I don't think you need an post that.

To be honest, your list looks like a compilation of a bunch of stuff you've seen suggested but which you've never actually carried. I think it will trim itself down naturally when you start using it.

And I have this nagging feeling in the back of my mind that I've come across as a bit of a jerk in various spots in this post. My apologies if I have.

I have now replaced the magnefying glass with a compass/magnefyer combo.

Why no: trail tape, superglue, brass wire, hd aluminium foil, hand-warmers, lightsticks?



I believe that fire-starting is one of those things that needs a triple-redundantcy system.

I carry both the insect-repellant and headnet because of the other functions of the headnet.

I'll keep the 'overkill' FAK. That's just my little piece of insurance (??)

I agree on the knifes. I kow carry the mora in the backpack, but still the leatherman on the belt, also because that is EDC.'

Thank you for all your suggestions, I appreciate it.

Okay, here's another try. Gotta little caffeine in me. Read the other posts. The fact that you are carrying a 30L pack sank in. Here we go.

30L pack for day hiking? That's the first thing I'd change. When you have that much space, it's easy to toss in extra gear just because you can. In fact, I see in one of your responses a couple of mentions of "they don't take up much space." My approach is more one of "do I need it" than one of "do I have room for it." I think that a day pack is normally more than enough for day hiking. I'm currently using a fanny pack and don't feel like I need any more.

Anyway, here's the maximum that I'd leave on your original list:

1 Mora-knife
1 folding Saw
1 Sharpening-stone (v-shaped)

1 pair of gloves
1 sun-hat (or ski-hat, depending on season)
1 bandanna
1 small bottle of sunscreen
1 small bottle of insect-repellent (50% DEET)
1 pocket-size tin of Vaseline
5 desinfectant-wipes
1 bandanna

- 1 hemocut
- 1 pair of illuminated tweezers
- 1 click-away
- 1 triangulair bandage
- 18ml. desinfect-lotion (similar to Purrell)
- 2m medical-tape
- 4 Immodium
- 7 antihistamine
- 9 Ibuprofen
- 6 gauze pads 1/16
- 2 ampules of saline
- 2 pair nitrile gloves
- 1 assortment bandages (small,large,waterproof,fingertip,etc.)
- 6 alcohol-prep-pads)
- 6 Povidone-Iodine prep-pads
- 3 antibiotic-ointment packs.

1 LED-headlamp + 2 sets of extra batteries
1 photon-microlight
1 BIC-lighter
1 Fire-Steel Scout
5 Coghlan’s Emergency-Tinder and some cotton wool (the cotton wool will work better if it is impregnated with vaseline)
2 small candles
1 Esbit-stove with extra fuel-tabs

1 Coghlan’s heavy-duty space-blanket (replace with AMK 2-person)
1 AMK Heatsheet Emergency Bivvy
1 poncho

1 1l militairy canteen
1 cup for canteen
1 Platypus 1l. water-bag (unfilled)
1 Spork
1 Vitamin C-drink powder 100gr. (2 l.)
2 O.R.S.
5 sweets
1 Cup a Soup chicken
1 energy-bars
1 roll of Dextro energy tablets
2 Kendall’s mint-cake
1 chocolate bar
3 tea-bags
8 micropur water-purifying tabs
1 BCB water-purifying straw
2 coffee filters
2 zip-locks (1x quart, 1x gallon)
1 fishing-kit
1 float for fishing-kit
10m. Paracord
1m. Duct-tape - 50m. sewing thread
2 medium sewing needles
2 buttons (reduce number)

1 Coghlan’s signalling mirror
1 Coghlan’s 4-1 Whistle
1 base-plate compass (get one with magnifying glass)
1 map of local area

(redundancy kit not needed)