I can't remeber the folding saw, althought its rings a bell. About nothing to strike the flint with well, I got one in my SAK as back up but at the moment I am practicing making fire with only sparks and dont really like to take it out, put everything back etc. So I lke one on my sheath. Thanx for the info<br>PS have you seen Ray making a bow saw in the German forrest (on his program)?<br>Reinhardt