#85903 - 02/18/07 05:07 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Registered: 05/16/05
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Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
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A nice list. Might I add extra cash, a credit card or 2, and a spare drivers license hidden away somewhere in the vehicle? What kind of vehicle are you building the list for? How many people?
I made a list, including the quantity of each item, and the weight of each item. I was surprised how fast the weight added up, and how high it got.
I got the plans for a tear drop trailer and built one to hold my bug out gear, with extra fuel. You can also sleep in the trailer if needed. Use matching wheels to your tow vehicle so you use the trailer wheels as vehicle spares if needed. The right axles will allow you to carry a fair amount of gear in the trailer.
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#85904 - 02/19/07 04:18 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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Good idea on the trailer. When I used to have a Toyota P/U, I had plans on getting the back end of a wrecked Toy P/U, turn it into a trailer, and put a camper shell on it. Now my ex has the old Toyota. Another failed plan...
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#85905 - 02/19/07 04:36 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Journeyman
Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 86
Loc: Phx, AZ
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Using other lists, I "brain-stormed" to create this list. It's more-or-less a list of ideas. So, maybe I'll get me a bottle jack but someone else may prefer a floor jack.
Thank you for the great ideas. I have added them to my list.
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#85906 - 02/19/07 04:50 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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I'll take a HiLift (depending on the type of vehicle/bumper, and keeping in mind that using it might cause some body damage to some cars), you can do things with one of those that a bottle or floor jack can't touch...
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#85907 - 02/19/07 05:22 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Registered: 02/19/07
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I've been reading these forums for a few weeks, but this thread got me to register and respond. I've been an ASE master tech now for over a decade and I know a bit about impact guns. A good tech will know how to use his tools and will use a torque stick with his gun when he zips up those lug nuts. You should be able to take them off again with a normal lug wrench if you need to do so. But: if the threads are worn or damaged, you will have problems no matter how the nuts are torqued. If you have a GMC 1500 or larger SUV with a 6 bolt wheel the threads manage to self destruct no matter how well you take care of them. Also, nearly all vehicles are designed to have either lubricated or non-lubricated stud/nut assemblies. Very few late model vehicles call for oil and can have problems if you add oil to the threads. Most older models require lubrication. The difference being what metals are used for the stud,nut, wheel, and mounting surface. If you live in a part of the country where corrosion is a problem, make sure the wheel is lubed where it contacts the drum/rotor/hub. Many times we have taken the nuts off of a wheel and then had to use a 5 lb hammer + dynamite + and act of congress to get the wheel unstuck from the corroded surface, not a good thing especially if you are not in a shop. Anyway, find a good tech to work on your car, that means you won't be getting work done at the sears or walmart by college kids. If you really must use a torque wrench to sleep at night, most wheels will torque at 90-120 ft. lbs. or if you only have a lug wrench, go about 12" down the handle and put half you weight on it (assuming you are around 200 lbs, more or less according to your size) when you torque the nuts in a star pattern.
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#85908 - 02/19/07 05:37 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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Welcome, and thanks for the info. I have been buying tires since the invention of rubber, and this one time was the ONLY time I have ever seen a tire man use anything but an impact wrench, probably set on three tons. Some of the time it was obviously the college kid, but often at locations I thought were staffed by professionals. Live and learn.
When tightening lugs myself, I usually go 'til I hear my back click, then I stop...
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#85909 - 02/19/07 06:51 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Member
Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 112
Loc: Pacific North West
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I agree, if I were only allowed one jack, the Hi-Lift would be my first choice. It is a very versitile tool, not only can it lift, clamp, spread, but it can be modified to do much more. If you have tow straps and or tow chains you can use the Hi-Lift as a winch, and the handle can be detached for use as a breaker bar. However, I have been in a few situations when a small bottle jack would have been very desirable over the Hi-Lift, for example: trying to change a tire in an extreme off camber situation.
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#85910 - 02/19/07 03:46 PM
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
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"...trying to change a tire in an extreme off camber situation..."
That is where the possible body damage part comes in...
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#86166 - 02/20/07 09:27 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Newbie
Registered: 08/29/06
Posts: 41
Loc: the last bastion of PHRASECENS...
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There are so many lists. I wanted to create one super list. As money became available and as I learned more about what I needed, I could review my list and plan my purchases. I'm not very good at this and I'm no mechanic or comm expert. So, could you please take a look and tell me what you think? Thank you very much. Hope this gives someone else some ideas.
VEHICLE EQUIPMENT
250 watt inverter
Air compressor - 12V
Anti-freeze - premixed or concentrate
Automatic transmission fluid
Battery booster
Battery post cleaner
Brake fluid
Cargo liner (traction mat)
Crimp style wire terminals and splices
Fan belt or belts - serpentine
Fire extinguisher - A-B-C type
Floor mats (traction mat)
Fuel additive and anti-gel
Fuel Can w fuel and stabilizer
Fuel filter (in case fuel does gel)
Funnel
Fuses
Glass cleaner
Hand cleaner, waterless - (FastOrange, GoJo)
Hose clamps - assorted
Hose repair kit
Ice scraper ? long reach
Jack - bottle
Jack - floor
Jack - hi-lift
Jack - that came with vehicle
Jumper cables - heavy duty
Life hammer
Light bulbs
Locking gas cap
Locking lug nut key
Loctite
Lug wrench, 4-way
Lug wrench, that came with vehicle
Motor oil - enough for a complete change
Oil filter
Power steering fluid
Radiator stop leak
Reflector, emergency triangle
RTV gasket maker (Permatex)
Seatbelt cutter
Sections of fuel and brake lines and couplings
Siphon
Snow brush
Spare tire - full size
Spare tire, second
Spark plugs - complete set, pre-gapped
Spring loaded center punch (for breaking glass)
Tire chains (know how to install them)
Tire inflator (Fix-A-Flat, Slime)
Tire inflator, 12V
Tire inflator, compressed CO2 cylinders
Tire inflator, manual foot pump
Tire iron (used for changing tires on metal rims)
Tire pressure gauge
Tire repair kit
Tow accessories (hooks, shackles)
Tow Rope / Chain / Strap - heavy duty
Traction mats (2) (stuck in snow or mud)
Traffic vests - orange, reflective
Trailer hitch
Transmission fluid
Valve stems - and valve wrench
Vehicle repair guide - (Hayes)
Water, distilled - for battery
WD-40 (Loosens stuck metal, displaces water)
Winch
Window de-icer
Wood plank - for jacking up car (min 1 ft x 1 ft)
Vehicle Owner's Guide
COMMUNICATIONS
2-way radios
AM/FM/Weather radio (solar-crank-battery)
CB radio
Cell phone / car charger
Cell phone charger, from batteries
Cell phone charger, solar
Paper, waterproof (Rite-in-Rain pad)
Pencils
Pens
Phone numbers - contact lists
Pre-paid phone card
Sharpie markers
HYDRATION
Bottled water
Coffee filters
Coffee mugs - insulated with caps
Drink, instant - cocoa, electrolyte, flavored, tea
Drinking water
Solar still
Water purification filter (Katadyn, MSR, Pur)
Water purification tablets (Potable Aqua)
Water transpiration bag, clear
FIREMAKING
BlastMatch firestarter
Commercial tinder sticks or tabs
Fire log (Duraflame, HearthLogg, PineMtn)
Flint
Lighter, butane (BIC)
Lighter, butane with extended nozzle
Magnesium block with striker
Matches, "strike-anywhere" waterproof case
Spark-Lite fire starter
HYGIENE/TOILETERIES
Camper's soap
Collapsible wash basin
Deodorant
Detergent, laundry
Feminine supplies
Foot powder
Hand lotion
Hand sanitizer
Handy wipes
Insect repellant
Leaf bags - large heavy duty, 55 gallon
Lip balm (Chapstick)
Mouth wash, travel size
Portable toilet
Shaving razor
Soap, liquid or bar
Sunscreen
Tick tweezers
Toilet paper
Toothbrush and toothpaste
Towels - shop, heavy duty paper
Cotton swabs (Q-Tips)
MAINTENANCE KITS
Contact lenses maintenance kit
Gun care kit
Knife sharpening kit
Sewing kit, expedition, w safety pins
Stove maintenance kit
Tent maintenance kit
Thermarest repair kit
TOOLS
Axe - full size
Brush saw
Cable ties
Come-along ? heavy duty
Crescent wrenches
Crowbar / pry bar (bent fender)
Duct tape
Electrical tape
Electrical Wire
Epoxy - quick set
Hacksaw - spare blades
Hammer
Hatchet
Hex keys (Allen wrench)
Magnetic pick up and or finger pick up tool
Mechanic's wire
MultiMeter (electrical meter)
Nuts and bolts - miscellaneous fasteners
Paracord - or any other cord or rope
Pliers - slipjoint, needlenose, Vise-grips
Screwdrivers - slot and phillips
Shovel
Snow shovel - medium
Socket and wrench set - SAE and metric
Super Glue
Tape measure
Tie downs
Wire crimping and stripping tool
Wire cutters
SHELTER
Dustpan and wisk
Groundcloth
Rain fly
Tarp, bright color
Tent
Tent stakes
Tube tent
BEDDING
Blankets - bright colors, fleece
Camp pillow - inflatable
Cot
Foam pad - closed cell
Sleeping bag - winter
Sleeping bag liner
Thermarest pads
CLOTHING
Bandanna
Coat
Coveralls
Face mask
Gaiters
Gloves - leather
Gloves - mittens
Gloves - rubber disposable
Hat - Balaclava
Hat - Brimmed (shade)
Hat - Ski mask
Hat - Watch cap
Hiking Boots
Hiking shorts
Jacket
Neck gaiter
Rain gear
Rain poncho - orange
Scarf
Socks
Sunglasses, spare
Umbrella
Underwear - thermal
Walking shoes
ENTERTAINMENT
Book ? entertainment
Book ? survival related
Book - crossword
Playing cards
Travel games
FIRST AID
Adhesive tape
Antibiotic Ointment
Bleeding control
Blister
Elastic bandage
EMT scissors
First aid book
First aid kit
Prescription / needed medications
Wound cleansing / disinfecting
Wound closure
Wound dressing
FOOD
Candy - hard
Food - Emergency (Datrex, Mainstay, Mayday)
Food - Canned
Food - Dehydrated
Food - Freeze dried
Food bars - cereal, energy, granola, Power
MRE flameless ration heaters
MREs
Salt / pepper / sugar / bouillon
NAVIGATION
Compass
GPS
Maps - road, forest, topographical
SIGNALING
Air horn - marine
Flare gun, flares
Personal locator beacon
Signal mirror
Signal panel, flourescent, orange
Smoke generators
Strobe light
Surveyor tape - bright color
Whistles - with neck lanyards
SURVIVAL
AMK Heat Sheets
Backpacks, waterproof (2)
Brass wire
Bug repellant
Campsaw
Emergency space blanket
Every-Day-Carry kit
Firearm, magazines, ammunition
Fishing kit - pole, tackle
Gill net (fishing)
Hand warmers - chemical
Knife
Magnifying glass
Multitool (Leatherman)
Plastic produce bags - keep feet dry
Plastic tubing - clear - for water seeps
Pocket chainsaw
Slingshot
Snare trapping kit
Space blankets
Survival bags ? orange survival
Wire saw
LIGHT
Batteries - for all devices carried
Candle lantern - spare candles
Flashlight - LED - spare bulb
Headlamp - LED - spare bulb
Chemical light sticks (Cyalume)
Spot light w/ cigarette lighter charger
MISCELLANEOUS
AAA card
Bucket - to haul water
Carabiner
Carbon monoxide detector
Cash - small bills, quarters
Chairs
Climbing rope
Disposable camera w film
Hiking staff
Infant supplies
Mosquito coils
Mosquito headnet
N95 Dust Mask
Optics - Binoculars, monocular, telescope
Prescription glasses, spare
Razor blades, single edge
Sitting pad
Table, folding
Thermometer
Travel alarm clock
Weather monitor
Ziplock bags - gallon and quart
COOKING
Aluminium foil ? heavy duty
Can opener - full size, non-electric
Can opener - P38 or P51
Cook set / Mess kit - backpack size
Cups, Sierra
Dishwashing liquid
Fuel tablets (Hexamine, Trioxane, Esbit)
Grill - backpacker size
Plastic plates
Pot scouring pad
Sterno
Stove, propane w spare bottles
Utensils, cooking (tongs, long-handle fork)
Utensils, eating - Lexan
Is there any room left for people?   JK, I'd love to have all that in a good suv.
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#86199 - 02/21/07 01:37 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 3002
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Even if the business has professionals services like tire rotations are not high profit so you get the new guy or part time person on it. So you usually get the don't care person or the inexperienced person. Same with the oil changes, there are a lot of people who need to have things like ball joints and tie rod ends replaced early because they never got greased since the person at the quick change place didn't know where they all were and would miss a lot.
My truck has 11 grease fittings and I ended up printing off a few checklists on some note cards so I can pull one out when I do maintenance to make sure I don't miss them. Think about the shops where they see hundreds of different models of vehicles, there is no way to know everything about them all. On my little check list I put the direction of tire rotation and torque of the lug nuts, amount of oil, etc. Everything I do around 5000-6000 mile maintenance is on one page so its handy.
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