#85892 - 02/18/07 03:49 AM
Another vehicle bugout list
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Journeyman
Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 86
Loc: Phx, AZ
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There are so many lists. I wanted to create one super list. As money became available and as I learned more about what I needed, I could review my list and plan my purchases. I'm not very good at this and I'm no mechanic or comm expert. So, could you please take a look and tell me what you think? Thank you very much. Hope this gives someone else some ideas.
VEHICLE EQUIPMENT
250 watt inverter Air compressor - 12V Anti-freeze - premixed or concentrate Automatic transmission fluid Battery booster Battery post cleaner Brake fluid Cargo liner (traction mat) Crimp style wire terminals and splices Fan belt or belts - serpentine Fire extinguisher - A-B-C type Floor mats (traction mat) Fuel additive and anti-gel Fuel Can w fuel and stabilizer Fuel filter (in case fuel does gel) Funnel Fuses Glass cleaner Hand cleaner, waterless - (FastOrange, GoJo) Hose clamps - assorted Hose repair kit Ice scraper – long reach Jack - bottle Jack - floor Jack - hi-lift Jack - that came with vehicle Jumper cables - heavy duty Life hammer Light bulbs Locking gas cap Locking lug nut key Loctite Lug wrench, 4-way Lug wrench, that came with vehicle Motor oil - enough for a complete change Oil filter Power steering fluid Radiator stop leak Reflector, emergency triangle RTV gasket maker (Permatex) Seatbelt cutter Sections of fuel and brake lines and couplings Siphon Snow brush Spare tire - full size Spare tire, second Spark plugs - complete set, pre-gapped Spring loaded center punch (for breaking glass) Tire chains (know how to install them) Tire inflator (Fix-A-Flat, Slime) Tire inflator, 12V Tire inflator, compressed CO2 cylinders Tire inflator, manual foot pump Tire iron (used for changing tires on metal rims) Tire pressure gauge Tire repair kit Tow accessories (hooks, shackles) Tow Rope / Chain / Strap - heavy duty Traction mats (2) (stuck in snow or mud) Traffic vests - orange, reflective Trailer hitch Transmission fluid Valve stems - and valve wrench Vehicle repair guide - (Hayes) Water, distilled - for battery WD-40 (Loosens stuck metal, displaces water) Winch Window de-icer Wood plank - for jacking up car (min 1 ft x 1 ft) Vehicle Owner's Guide
COMMUNICATIONS
2-way radios AM/FM/Weather radio (solar-crank-battery) CB radio Cell phone / car charger Cell phone charger, from batteries Cell phone charger, solar Paper, waterproof (Rite-in-Rain pad) Pencils Pens Phone numbers - contact lists Pre-paid phone card Sharpie markers
HYDRATION
Bottled water Coffee filters Coffee mugs - insulated with caps Drink, instant - cocoa, electrolyte, flavored, tea Drinking water Solar still Water purification filter (Katadyn, MSR, Pur) Water purification tablets (Potable Aqua) Water transpiration bag, clear
FIREMAKING
BlastMatch firestarter Commercial tinder sticks or tabs Fire log (Duraflame, HearthLogg, PineMtn) Flint Lighter, butane (BIC) Lighter, butane with extended nozzle Magnesium block with striker Matches, "strike-anywhere" waterproof case Spark-Lite fire starter
HYGIENE/TOILETERIES
Camper's soap Collapsible wash basin Deodorant Detergent, laundry Feminine supplies Foot powder Hand lotion Hand sanitizer Handy wipes Insect repellant Leaf bags - large heavy duty, 55 gallon Lip balm (Chapstick) Mouth wash, travel size Portable toilet Shaving razor Soap, liquid or bar Sunscreen Tick tweezers Toilet paper Toothbrush and toothpaste Towels - shop, heavy duty paper Cotton swabs (Q-Tips)
MAINTENANCE KITS
Contact lenses maintenance kit Gun care kit Knife sharpening kit Sewing kit, expedition, w safety pins Stove maintenance kit Tent maintenance kit Thermarest repair kit
TOOLS
Axe - full size Brush saw Cable ties Come-along – heavy duty Crescent wrenches Crowbar / pry bar (bent fender) Duct tape Electrical tape Electrical Wire Epoxy - quick set Hacksaw - spare blades Hammer Hatchet Hex keys (Allen wrench) Magnetic pick up and or finger pick up tool Mechanic's wire MultiMeter (electrical meter) Nuts and bolts - miscellaneous fasteners Paracord - or any other cord or rope Pliers - slipjoint, needlenose, Vise-grips Screwdrivers - slot and phillips Shovel Snow shovel - medium Socket and wrench set - SAE and metric Super Glue Tape measure Tie downs Wire crimping and stripping tool Wire cutters
SHELTER
Dustpan and wisk Groundcloth Rain fly Tarp, bright color Tent Tent stakes Tube tent
BEDDING
Blankets - bright colors, fleece Camp pillow - inflatable Cot Foam pad - closed cell Sleeping bag - winter Sleeping bag liner Thermarest pads
CLOTHING
Bandanna Coat Coveralls Face mask Gaiters Gloves - leather Gloves - mittens Gloves - rubber disposable Hat - Balaclava Hat - Brimmed (shade) Hat - Ski mask Hat - Watch cap Hiking Boots Hiking shorts Jacket Neck gaiter Rain gear Rain poncho - orange Scarf Socks Sunglasses, spare Umbrella Underwear - thermal Walking shoes
ENTERTAINMENT
Book – entertainment Book – survival related Book - crossword Playing cards Travel games
FIRST AID
Adhesive tape Antibiotic Ointment Bleeding control Blister Elastic bandage EMT scissors First aid book First aid kit Prescription / needed medications Wound cleansing / disinfecting Wound closure Wound dressing
FOOD
Candy - hard Food - Emergency (Datrex, Mainstay, Mayday) Food - Canned Food - Dehydrated Food - Freeze dried Food bars - cereal, energy, granola, Power MRE flameless ration heaters MREs Salt / pepper / sugar / bouillon
NAVIGATION
Compass GPS Maps - road, forest, topographical
SIGNALING
Air horn - marine Flare gun, flares Personal locator beacon Signal mirror Signal panel, flourescent, orange Smoke generators Strobe light Surveyor tape - bright color Whistles - with neck lanyards
SURVIVAL
AMK Heat Sheets Backpacks, waterproof (2) Brass wire Bug repellant Campsaw Emergency space blanket Every-Day-Carry kit Firearm, magazines, ammunition Fishing kit - pole, tackle Gill net (fishing) Hand warmers - chemical Knife Magnifying glass Multitool (Leatherman) Plastic produce bags - keep feet dry Plastic tubing - clear - for water seeps Pocket chainsaw Slingshot Snare trapping kit Space blankets Survival bags – orange survival Wire saw
LIGHT
Batteries - for all devices carried Candle lantern - spare candles Flashlight - LED - spare bulb Headlamp - LED - spare bulb Chemical light sticks (Cyalume) Spot light w/ cigarette lighter charger
MISCELLANEOUS
AAA card Bucket - to haul water Carabiner Carbon monoxide detector Cash - small bills, quarters Chairs Climbing rope Disposable camera w film Hiking staff Infant supplies Mosquito coils Mosquito headnet N95 Dust Mask Optics - Binoculars, monocular, telescope Prescription glasses, spare Razor blades, single edge Sitting pad Table, folding Thermometer Travel alarm clock Weather monitor Ziplock bags - gallon and quart
COOKING
Aluminium foil – heavy duty Can opener - full size, non-electric Can opener - P38 or P51 Cook set / Mess kit - backpack size Cups, Sierra Dishwashing liquid Fuel tablets (Hexamine, Trioxane, Esbit) Grill - backpacker size Plastic plates Pot scouring pad Sterno Stove, propane w spare bottles Utensils, cooking (tongs, long-handle fork) Utensils, eating - Lexan
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#85893 - 02/18/07 04:23 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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That is one heck of a list. At first glance you seem to have covered just about everything, sometimes more than once...
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#85894 - 02/18/07 05:04 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Registered: 12/14/05
Posts: 130
Loc: Pasadena, Calif.
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Well...I'll have to give you an "A" for effort...now don't get me wrong, it's a really good basic kit but I'm afraid it only covers the very minimum essentials. Right off the bat I noticed a glaring omission:  <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Just kidding, now that's what I call a comprehensive kit!
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#85896 - 02/18/07 02:39 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2998
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Do you need a bottle and floor jack in addition to the hi lift and factory jack? I stopped carrying my 4 way lug wrench and instead have a socket set and a large "breaker bar" as I've found that it does an even better job than the 4 way and can be used for other things than just the lug nuts. I carry my tools in a wrench roll, it has 14 pockets and I've found that I can squeeze two wrenches in each pocket and the breaker bar is in one and the socket set rolls up inside it as well. The cloth rolled up like that keeps things from rattling.
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#85897 - 02/18/07 02:40 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2998
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You might laugh but one of the items on my todo/toget list is a small sink usually called a bar sink. They are about 12" square. I want to put it in a box with a drain valve so I can fill it with water and wash up if needed.
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#85898 - 02/18/07 03:39 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
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A breaker bar and socket set is a good idea, provided that you have high quality sockets. I have broken more than one cheap socket over the years. Have also twisted supposedly high quality 4-ways into a pretzel with frozen lug nuts. A "snipe," or "cheater," a piece of pipe you can slip over the end of the breakerbar to give it more leverage, is a good idea also.
Tip for all, 'specially those who drive off the beaten path, and thru water: Remove lug nuts and oil or grease the studs. Lugs that are installed with an impact wrench and then rusted in place are often really really hard to get off...
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#85899 - 02/18/07 03:48 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
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I forgot to mention the pipe, I have a length which fits the breaker bar or stock lug wrench. I always understood you were to never grease the threads on the lug bolts as that changes the torque characteristics and they could back off while driving. You should never use an impact wrench to install the lug nuts, always use a torque wrench. The one time I couldn't get one off was when I took up the free tire rotation that came with new tires, never again will I do that, I've rotated them myself from then on.
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#85900 - 02/18/07 04:09 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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I have seen tire shops oil studs, and my dad always did it, never lost a wheel. I have seen studs and nuts covered with rust, and super hard to get off. They were always on 4-wd drive vehicles that actually got off road use.
I couldn't agree more about not using impact wrenches, I hate those things. But how many people have new tires installed, or their old ones rotated, then go home, loosen the nuts, and torque them tight? Not many, most don't have a torque wrench anyway, and tire shops always use impact wrenches. Only exception I have seen to that was at an Les Schwabs in WA, where I recently had an alighment and balance. They used a impact wrench, set low, then used a torque wrench to finish the job...
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#85901 - 02/18/07 04:24 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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I just did some googling, and discovered that at least one NASCAR pit crew puts a super lubricant that they mix up onto the studs to reduce the amount of power needed to torque the nuts down. Then found a tire shop that said "no oil or grease," and one that said "use oil and grease." So I guess it is up to the individual...
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#85902 - 02/18/07 04:48 PM
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 662
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That is an impressive list, I would up your inverter to a 400 Watt or better, if you are going to do a lot of long range traveling, go up to 700 Watts or better. This gives you laptops, hairdryers for the wife, power up all sorts or items. I also bought 4 of the northern portable solar panels (20 Watts) which powers my cell phone, GPS, recharge my Steripen Adventure purifier and all my flashlight batteries with it and I use a vector dc to dc converter I found at target for $15. You don't really need the dc to dc converter unless you are charging Li-ion batteries (which I do for the Steripen). I was looking for a better travel bag and went with the 7016 Long Range Bugout bag by Bug Out gear which gave me 6300 cu. in. of space. I bought a black one from US Calvary and the bag has a lifetime warranty. I'm still in the process of building mine as we speak but the bag is awesome, it even has a place for my 32 on nalgine bottle with stainless steel cup bottom. Anyway these are some more ideas but the solar panels have definably came in handy during our hurricanes when gas was no where to be found and we had a few hand crank flashlights and radios. It allowed us to recharge the batteries on those without having to crank them all day. Bug Out Bag Vector Inverter Portable Solar Panels
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#85903 - 02/18/07 05:07 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Old Hand
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
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A nice list. Might I add extra cash, a credit card or 2, and a spare drivers license hidden away somewhere in the vehicle? What kind of vehicle are you building the list for? How many people? I made a list, including the quantity of each item, and the weight of each item. I was surprised how fast the weight added up, and how high it got. I got the plans for a tear drop trailer and built one to hold my bug out gear, with extra fuel. You can also sleep in the trailer if needed. Use matching wheels to your tow vehicle so you use the trailer wheels as vehicle spares if needed. The right axles will allow you to carry a fair amount of gear in the trailer.
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#85904 - 02/19/07 04:18 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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Good idea on the trailer. When I used to have a Toyota P/U, I had plans on getting the back end of a wrecked Toy P/U, turn it into a trailer, and put a camper shell on it. Now my ex has the old Toyota. Another failed plan...
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#85905 - 02/19/07 04:36 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Journeyman
Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 86
Loc: Phx, AZ
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Using other lists, I "brain-stormed" to create this list. It's more-or-less a list of ideas. So, maybe I'll get me a bottle jack but someone else may prefer a floor jack.
Thank you for the great ideas. I have added them to my list.
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#85906 - 02/19/07 04:50 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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I'll take a HiLift (depending on the type of vehicle/bumper, and keeping in mind that using it might cause some body damage to some cars), you can do things with one of those that a bottle or floor jack can't touch...
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#85907 - 02/19/07 05:22 AM
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Registered: 02/19/07
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I've been reading these forums for a few weeks, but this thread got me to register and respond. I've been an ASE master tech now for over a decade and I know a bit about impact guns. A good tech will know how to use his tools and will use a torque stick with his gun when he zips up those lug nuts. You should be able to take them off again with a normal lug wrench if you need to do so. But: if the threads are worn or damaged, you will have problems no matter how the nuts are torqued. If you have a GMC 1500 or larger SUV with a 6 bolt wheel the threads manage to self destruct no matter how well you take care of them. Also, nearly all vehicles are designed to have either lubricated or non-lubricated stud/nut assemblies. Very few late model vehicles call for oil and can have problems if you add oil to the threads. Most older models require lubrication. The difference being what metals are used for the stud,nut, wheel, and mounting surface. If you live in a part of the country where corrosion is a problem, make sure the wheel is lubed where it contacts the drum/rotor/hub. Many times we have taken the nuts off of a wheel and then had to use a 5 lb hammer + dynamite + and act of congress to get the wheel unstuck from the corroded surface, not a good thing especially if you are not in a shop. Anyway, find a good tech to work on your car, that means you won't be getting work done at the sears or walmart by college kids. If you really must use a torque wrench to sleep at night, most wheels will torque at 90-120 ft. lbs. or if you only have a lug wrench, go about 12" down the handle and put half you weight on it (assuming you are around 200 lbs, more or less according to your size) when you torque the nuts in a star pattern.
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#85908 - 02/19/07 05:37 AM
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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Welcome, and thanks for the info. I have been buying tires since the invention of rubber, and this one time was the ONLY time I have ever seen a tire man use anything but an impact wrench, probably set on three tons. Some of the time it was obviously the college kid, but often at locations I thought were staffed by professionals. Live and learn.
When tightening lugs myself, I usually go 'til I hear my back click, then I stop...
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#85909 - 02/19/07 06:51 AM
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 112
Loc: Pacific North West
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I agree, if I were only allowed one jack, the Hi-Lift would be my first choice. It is a very versitile tool, not only can it lift, clamp, spread, but it can be modified to do much more. If you have tow straps and or tow chains you can use the Hi-Lift as a winch, and the handle can be detached for use as a breaker bar. However, I have been in a few situations when a small bottle jack would have been very desirable over the Hi-Lift, for example: trying to change a tire in an extreme off camber situation.
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#85910 - 02/19/07 03:46 PM
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Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
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"...trying to change a tire in an extreme off camber situation..."
That is where the possible body damage part comes in...
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#86166 - 02/20/07 09:27 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
[Re: xavier01]
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Newbie
Registered: 08/29/06
Posts: 41
Loc: the last bastion of PHRASECENS...
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There are so many lists. I wanted to create one super list. As money became available and as I learned more about what I needed, I could review my list and plan my purchases. I'm not very good at this and I'm no mechanic or comm expert. So, could you please take a look and tell me what you think? Thank you very much. Hope this gives someone else some ideas.
VEHICLE EQUIPMENT
250 watt inverter Air compressor - 12V Anti-freeze - premixed or concentrate Automatic transmission fluid Battery booster Battery post cleaner Brake fluid Cargo liner (traction mat) Crimp style wire terminals and splices Fan belt or belts - serpentine Fire extinguisher - A-B-C type Floor mats (traction mat) Fuel additive and anti-gel Fuel Can w fuel and stabilizer Fuel filter (in case fuel does gel) Funnel Fuses Glass cleaner Hand cleaner, waterless - (FastOrange, GoJo) Hose clamps - assorted Hose repair kit Ice scraper ? long reach Jack - bottle Jack - floor Jack - hi-lift Jack - that came with vehicle Jumper cables - heavy duty Life hammer Light bulbs Locking gas cap Locking lug nut key Loctite Lug wrench, 4-way Lug wrench, that came with vehicle Motor oil - enough for a complete change Oil filter Power steering fluid Radiator stop leak Reflector, emergency triangle RTV gasket maker (Permatex) Seatbelt cutter Sections of fuel and brake lines and couplings Siphon Snow brush Spare tire - full size Spare tire, second Spark plugs - complete set, pre-gapped Spring loaded center punch (for breaking glass) Tire chains (know how to install them) Tire inflator (Fix-A-Flat, Slime) Tire inflator, 12V Tire inflator, compressed CO2 cylinders Tire inflator, manual foot pump Tire iron (used for changing tires on metal rims) Tire pressure gauge Tire repair kit Tow accessories (hooks, shackles) Tow Rope / Chain / Strap - heavy duty Traction mats (2) (stuck in snow or mud) Traffic vests - orange, reflective Trailer hitch Transmission fluid Valve stems - and valve wrench Vehicle repair guide - (Hayes) Water, distilled - for battery WD-40 (Loosens stuck metal, displaces water) Winch Window de-icer Wood plank - for jacking up car (min 1 ft x 1 ft) Vehicle Owner's Guide
COMMUNICATIONS
2-way radios AM/FM/Weather radio (solar-crank-battery) CB radio Cell phone / car charger Cell phone charger, from batteries Cell phone charger, solar Paper, waterproof (Rite-in-Rain pad) Pencils Pens Phone numbers - contact lists Pre-paid phone card Sharpie markers
HYDRATION
Bottled water Coffee filters Coffee mugs - insulated with caps Drink, instant - cocoa, electrolyte, flavored, tea Drinking water Solar still Water purification filter (Katadyn, MSR, Pur) Water purification tablets (Potable Aqua) Water transpiration bag, clear
FIREMAKING
BlastMatch firestarter Commercial tinder sticks or tabs Fire log (Duraflame, HearthLogg, PineMtn) Flint Lighter, butane (BIC) Lighter, butane with extended nozzle Magnesium block with striker Matches, "strike-anywhere" waterproof case Spark-Lite fire starter
HYGIENE/TOILETERIES
Camper's soap Collapsible wash basin Deodorant Detergent, laundry Feminine supplies Foot powder Hand lotion Hand sanitizer Handy wipes Insect repellant Leaf bags - large heavy duty, 55 gallon Lip balm (Chapstick) Mouth wash, travel size Portable toilet Shaving razor Soap, liquid or bar Sunscreen Tick tweezers Toilet paper Toothbrush and toothpaste Towels - shop, heavy duty paper Cotton swabs (Q-Tips)
MAINTENANCE KITS
Contact lenses maintenance kit Gun care kit Knife sharpening kit Sewing kit, expedition, w safety pins Stove maintenance kit Tent maintenance kit Thermarest repair kit
TOOLS
Axe - full size Brush saw Cable ties Come-along ? heavy duty Crescent wrenches Crowbar / pry bar (bent fender) Duct tape Electrical tape Electrical Wire Epoxy - quick set Hacksaw - spare blades Hammer Hatchet Hex keys (Allen wrench) Magnetic pick up and or finger pick up tool Mechanic's wire MultiMeter (electrical meter) Nuts and bolts - miscellaneous fasteners Paracord - or any other cord or rope Pliers - slipjoint, needlenose, Vise-grips Screwdrivers - slot and phillips Shovel Snow shovel - medium Socket and wrench set - SAE and metric Super Glue Tape measure Tie downs Wire crimping and stripping tool Wire cutters
SHELTER
Dustpan and wisk Groundcloth Rain fly Tarp, bright color Tent Tent stakes Tube tent
BEDDING
Blankets - bright colors, fleece Camp pillow - inflatable Cot Foam pad - closed cell Sleeping bag - winter Sleeping bag liner Thermarest pads
CLOTHING
Bandanna Coat Coveralls Face mask Gaiters Gloves - leather Gloves - mittens Gloves - rubber disposable Hat - Balaclava Hat - Brimmed (shade) Hat - Ski mask Hat - Watch cap Hiking Boots Hiking shorts Jacket Neck gaiter Rain gear Rain poncho - orange Scarf Socks Sunglasses, spare Umbrella Underwear - thermal Walking shoes
ENTERTAINMENT
Book ? entertainment Book ? survival related Book - crossword Playing cards Travel games
FIRST AID
Adhesive tape Antibiotic Ointment Bleeding control Blister Elastic bandage EMT scissors First aid book First aid kit Prescription / needed medications Wound cleansing / disinfecting Wound closure Wound dressing
FOOD
Candy - hard Food - Emergency (Datrex, Mainstay, Mayday) Food - Canned Food - Dehydrated Food - Freeze dried Food bars - cereal, energy, granola, Power MRE flameless ration heaters MREs Salt / pepper / sugar / bouillon
NAVIGATION
Compass GPS Maps - road, forest, topographical
SIGNALING
Air horn - marine Flare gun, flares Personal locator beacon Signal mirror Signal panel, flourescent, orange Smoke generators Strobe light Surveyor tape - bright color Whistles - with neck lanyards
SURVIVAL
AMK Heat Sheets Backpacks, waterproof (2) Brass wire Bug repellant Campsaw Emergency space blanket Every-Day-Carry kit Firearm, magazines, ammunition Fishing kit - pole, tackle Gill net (fishing) Hand warmers - chemical Knife Magnifying glass Multitool (Leatherman) Plastic produce bags - keep feet dry Plastic tubing - clear - for water seeps Pocket chainsaw Slingshot Snare trapping kit Space blankets Survival bags ? orange survival Wire saw
LIGHT
Batteries - for all devices carried Candle lantern - spare candles Flashlight - LED - spare bulb Headlamp - LED - spare bulb Chemical light sticks (Cyalume) Spot light w/ cigarette lighter charger
MISCELLANEOUS
AAA card Bucket - to haul water Carabiner Carbon monoxide detector Cash - small bills, quarters Chairs Climbing rope Disposable camera w film Hiking staff Infant supplies Mosquito coils Mosquito headnet N95 Dust Mask Optics - Binoculars, monocular, telescope Prescription glasses, spare Razor blades, single edge Sitting pad Table, folding Thermometer Travel alarm clock Weather monitor Ziplock bags - gallon and quart
COOKING
Aluminium foil ? heavy duty Can opener - full size, non-electric Can opener - P38 or P51 Cook set / Mess kit - backpack size Cups, Sierra Dishwashing liquid Fuel tablets (Hexamine, Trioxane, Esbit) Grill - backpacker size Plastic plates Pot scouring pad Sterno Stove, propane w spare bottles Utensils, cooking (tongs, long-handle fork) Utensils, eating - Lexan Is there any room left for people?  JK, I'd love to have all that in a good suv.
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#86199 - 02/21/07 01:37 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
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Even if the business has professionals services like tire rotations are not high profit so you get the new guy or part time person on it. So you usually get the don't care person or the inexperienced person. Same with the oil changes, there are a lot of people who need to have things like ball joints and tie rod ends replaced early because they never got greased since the person at the quick change place didn't know where they all were and would miss a lot. My truck has 11 grease fittings and I ended up printing off a few checklists on some note cards so I can pull one out when I do maintenance to make sure I don't miss them. Think about the shops where they see hundreds of different models of vehicles, there is no way to know everything about them all. On my little check list I put the direction of tire rotation and torque of the lug nuts, amount of oil, etc. Everything I do around 5000-6000 mile maintenance is on one page so its handy.
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#86222 - 02/21/07 04:00 AM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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"My truck has 11 grease fittings and I ended up printing off a few checklists on some note cards so I can pull one out when I do maintenance to make sure I don't miss them."
Carrying that idea a little farther: a card to give to the techs at the tire place. If they would use it.
The first time my dog had to go under anesthesia, I printed out how this breed can have 'conflicts' with various types of anesthetics and pre-anesthetics. On a later visit, I noticed there was a red tab attached to a page in the back of the file, but visible. I asked what it was, and the vet pulled out the anesthetic info I had provided. Sometimes, people DO pay attention.
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#86253 - 02/21/07 04:14 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
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Most tech's at the tire places don't like to be told how to do their job or ask if they did it afterward (I asked one time when I did use an oil change service if they got all x grease fittings). Its soo much better to do it your self. I have seen issues in forums where people have had ball joints seperate (basically your wheel falls off) and posted pictures and ranted about the maker of their vehicle etc. Then you look at their pictures and the inside of the ball joint is dry and rusty when it should have been covered in grease and you ask about it and they tell you that every 3000 miles they took it to x place for maintenance. We had an minivan years ago which I tool for an alignment and the place said they couldn't align the rear becaue they couldn't get to the bolts due to the ABS ring in the way. Ours was an AWD version and you had to take off the axel nut and push the anelinward to get the bolts loose, and those instructions were listed in a $12 chilton book I bought an an auto parts store. It just goes to show that there are so many differnet brands and models that the shops can't learn everything about them all so you have to do some work yourself.
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#86270 - 02/21/07 06:43 PM
Re: Another vehicle bugout list
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Registered: 05/16/05
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Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
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Good idea on the trailer. When I used to have a Toyota P/U, I had plans on getting the back end of a wrecked Toy P/U, turn it into a trailer, and put a camper shell on it. Now my ex has the old Toyota. Another failed plan... Maybe, and maybe not!  Look up the tear drop thriler thread I started here last year, they are cheap, and actually fun to build.
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