Equipped To Survive Equipped To Survive® Presents
The Survival Forum
Where do you want to go on ETS?

Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#84949 - 02/06/07 08:03 PM Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
MartinFocazio Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
Noticed some minor updates here.

Of interest to our audience - on the "allowed" list:


Tools (seven inches or less in length)
Screwdrivers (seven inches or less in length)
Wrenches and Pliers (seven inches or less in length)
Scissors - metal with pointed tips and blades shorter than four inches
Eyeglass Repair Tools - including screwdrivers.

For what it's worth, my airport carry kit now features the following goodies, all of which make the cut, if you get my drift.

1 pair of shorty scissors (4" total, pointy)
1 Swisstool Mini-Tool Thingy
1 Pair of Medic Shears
1 Pair of nail clippers
1 6" crescent wrench

I carry an empty1 liter water bottle with me, and fill is past security.

Additional airport kit items you'll like having:

1. Burt's Bees Brand Bar Soap. It's a shampoo! It's a Shaving Creme! It's a Body Soap! - one bar of soap covers many bases - and it keeps the liquids in your kit to a minimum.

2. A small towel. The joke in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was "always have a towel" and it's actually great advice.

3. Money. Don't leave home without it.

That's all for now. I'm off to Chicago for a 1/2 hour meeting Thursday (really) and I'll let you all know how things are at the frontlines of the whole security process.

Top
#84950 - 02/06/07 10:30 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
celler Offline
Addict

Registered: 12/25/03
Posts: 410
Loc: Jupiter, FL
Tell me more about Burt Bee's Bar Soap. Which version is supposed to be shampoo/shaving cream/regular soap? This sounds like something that would be a good idea to keep in the BOB as a backup.

Craig.

Top
#84951 - 02/06/07 11:41 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
digimark Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 01/28/07
Posts: 70
Loc: Chesapeake Beach, MD
Could someone decode this and tell me if it means I can bring a Leatherman? I'm assuming my CRKT 3" folding knife is still verboten. -Gary

Top
#84952 - 02/06/07 11:58 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
Russ Offline
Geezer

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
Most Leatherman multi-tools have a knife that disqualifies them. For those that would like to carry a multi-tool, Leatherman has recently come up with the Knifeless Fuse.
_________________________
Better is the Enemy of Good Enough.
Okay, what’s your point??

Top
#84953 - 02/07/07 12:01 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
UTAlumnus Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
Unless you've removed the knife blade & probably the wood saw blade the Leatherman needs to stay with the CRKT <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Top
#84954 - 02/07/07 01:18 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
ironraven Offline
Cranky Geek
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
I figure we'll be able to buy one lightly used and only siezed once within a month of them hitting the street from the TSA auctions. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Remember, you are still at the mercy of people who got turned down by real law enforcement and (para)military agencies. .
_________________________
-IronRaven

When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.

Top
#84955 - 02/07/07 01:53 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
ponder Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 367
Loc: American Redoubt
Maybe I missed something - why not take what you want and check your luggage?
_________________________
Cliff Harrison
PonderosaSports.com
Horseshoe Bend, ID
American Redoubt
N43.9668 W116.1888

Top
#84956 - 02/07/07 03:01 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
OldBaldGuy Offline
Geezer

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
I've never used it myself, but I asked Mr. Google about it, and he said this about just one of Bert's soaps. You will find more to choose from on the website...
_________________________
OBG

Top
#84957 - 02/07/07 03:41 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
Susan Offline
Geezer

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Airport employees were stealing stuff out of luggage prior to 9/11. Now you can't lock them out of it, I'm sure a lot more disappears. "PROVE IT, Sucker!"

And whether or not they 'go shopping' in your checked luggage, all they have to do is send it to Greenland, and you still don't have it with you.

Cynical Sue

Top
#84958 - 02/07/07 04:57 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
kmcrawford111 Offline
journeyman

Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 52
Loc: NW Indiana
Allowing pointed metal scissors comes as quite a surprise to me.

Top
#84959 - 02/07/07 03:51 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
celler Offline
Addict

Registered: 12/25/03
Posts: 410
Loc: Jupiter, FL
Of course, that's the question, which one of these various Burt's Bees products is the supposed "all-in-one" soluction? None of the sites I have reviewed say anything about that.

Craig.

Top
#84960 - 02/07/07 03:57 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
OldBaldGuy Offline
Geezer

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
My guess, and it is just a guess, is that if it will wash your hair (those of you who have hair), it will wash all of you...
_________________________
OBG

Top
#84961 - 02/07/07 07:25 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
philip Offline
Addict

Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 639
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
I've used whatever brand of bar soap I've had for shampoo and to shave, as well as to bathe. While it's nice to have whatever shampoo you need for oily hair with volumizing for extra body with rosemary mint to enhance my smelling experience, bar soap worked fine on my hair and on my face with hot water to shave.

Top
#84962 - 02/07/07 07:40 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
MartinFocazio Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
As a guy who has logged more takeoff and landings (as a passenger) than some commercial pilots, I can tell you why you should avoid checking bags in the way you should avoid a swarm of angry bees.

1. It adds - significantly - to your door-to-door travel time. When I fly, I go with my boarding pass in hand (printed at home or in the office) and I go directly to security. I can and do arrive 45 minutes before my flight - routinely - and make my flight with time to spare. It's more important on the landing part. I get off the plane and keep going. Waiting for your luggage to arrive can be a 45 minute debacle.

2. Lost Bags. They say it does not happen much. It's happened to me more than a few times, most recently when I went to Cyprus and my bags went to Zurich - for FOUR DAYS. I arrived for a business meeting after flying from NY to Amsterdam to Budapest to Cyprus in the same rumpled clothes I was wearing when I got on the plan at JFK the day before. I ended up spending hundreds of dollars to buy new clothes in Cyprus.

3. Stolen Goods. Aside from stories like this , I've also had items stolen from my bags in the past, and you have basically no recourse.

4. Extra Bulk. Lighten up! My family went to Disney for a WEEK and we only packed our rolling carry-ons, nothing more. You don't really need to bring too much, and you can - gasp - do laundry at your destination if you are going to be there a while.



Top
#84963 - 02/07/07 07:44 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
MartinFocazio Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA

Top
#84964 - 02/07/07 07:46 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
MartinFocazio Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
Yes, it's marketed as a "shampoo" bar, but it's the same stuff as the shaving soap bar and the body soap, just this one smells different.

Top
#84965 - 02/07/07 09:13 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
OldBaldGuy Offline
Geezer

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
"...you can - gasp - do laundry at your destination..."

There are many clothes that are easier to hand wash than others. Tilley for one has a whole wardrobe that can be hand washed in a sink, hung to dry, and will look reasonably neat in the morning. They are expensive, but many of their items have a lifetime warranty...
_________________________
OBG

Top
#84966 - 02/07/07 10:13 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
duckear Offline
Addict

Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 478
Quote:
Airport employees were stealing stuff out of luggage prior to 9/11. Now you can't lock them out of it, I'm sure a lot more disappears. "PROVE IT, Sucker!"


these may help. At least you know if someone used a TSA key
link


Edited by duckear (02/07/07 10:16 PM)

Top
#84967 - 02/07/07 10:19 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
Glock-A-Roo Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 04/16/03
Posts: 1076
Great stuff from Martin, as usual.

Quote:
...you can - gasp - do laundry at your destination...


Whenever I travel I carry a few packets of liquid Woolite, a sink stopper, 4mm cord + safety pins (= clothesline), $3-$4 in quarters, and some powdered laundry detergent. This gives me a full range of laundry options from handwashing to machine washing. So far TSA has not had a problem with these items.

If the dress code allows, I only bring 2-3 days of clothes and plan on washing them every couple days. Works well, especially if you don't have to run around in a suit & tie.

Click here for a fantastic site regarding smart travel techniques, including carryon-only and hotel room laundry.

Top
#84968 - 02/08/07 03:53 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
ratbert42 Offline
Member

Registered: 05/31/06
Posts: 178
Loc: Florida
Every baggage thief knows that you can open a locked suitcase in seconds with a simple ballpoint pen. Just push the tip of the pen into the zipper teeth until the separate. Pop the bag open. Take what you want. Close it. Run the locked zipper runner things back and forth until it's all zipped back together again.

Something without zippers like a catalog case or a hard suitcase might help. Oh, and a decent thief can "read" the combination right off of those thumbwheel combination locks in seconds.

I never check bags unless I'm forced to.


Edited by ratbert42 (02/08/07 04:03 AM)

Top
#84969 - 02/08/07 07:38 AM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
aloha Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 11/16/05
Posts: 1059
Loc: Hawaii, USA
Do you guys ship the sharps component of your EDC/PSK or make do without on your trip? I feel naked without at least a SAK on me. So I don't like to fly.

I personally think that the TSA should actively encourage all passengers to carry a pocket knife. Handy for every day stuff. Handy for crash survivors. Handy against terrorists. I think it would be a deterrent. A terrorist might think twice if everyone around them was similarly or better armed. That type of diplomacy worked for us during the cold war. I honestly believe that enough passengers would not put up with a small group trying to hijack a plane any more. Because if that were ever to be attempted again, people will think that they are either going to die fighting or die giving up. And and while there are many, unfortunately, who are willing to die giving up, enough would be willing to die fighting to have a chance to live.
_________________________
---------
http://hanzosoutdoors.blogspot.com/

Top
#84970 - 02/08/07 01:21 PM Re: Airport Kit & TSA Amended "OK to Fly" list
ironraven Offline
Cranky Geek
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Based on my limited flight experince, I've had three kinds of luggage: carried on, lost and fedexed. I'd send a SAK or my classic LM and a G2 to where ever I'm going, along anything I NEED to have thier. If I can't have a package sent to me at the desk, I look for a better hotel.
_________________________
-IronRaven

When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.

Top
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 >



Moderator:  Alan_Romania, Blast, cliff, Hikin_Jim 
November
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Who's Online
0 registered (), 907 Guests and 33 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Aaron_Guinn, israfaceVity, Explorer9, GallenR, Jeebo
5370 Registered Users
Newest Posts
Leather Work Gloves
by dougwalkabout
11/16/24 05:28 PM
Satellite texting via iPhone, 911 via Pixel
by Ren
11/05/24 03:30 PM
Emergency Toilets for Obese People
by adam2
11/04/24 06:59 PM
For your Halloween enjoyment
by brandtb
10/31/24 01:29 PM
Chronic Wasting Disease, How are people dealing?
by clearwater
10/30/24 05:41 PM
Things I Have Learned About Generators
by roberttheiii
10/29/24 07:32 PM
Gift ideas for a fire station?
by brandtb
10/27/24 12:35 AM
Newest Images
Tiny knife / wrench
Handmade knives
2"x2" Glass Signal Mirror, Retroreflective Mesh
Trade School Tool Kit
My Pocket Kit
Glossary
Test

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: SELECT AND USE OUTDOORS AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK. Information posted on this forum is not reviewed for accuracy and may not be reliable, use at your own risk. Please review the full WARNING & DISCLAIMER about information on this site.