#83844 - 01/27/07 02:24 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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Want to give me the statictics on a i" .22?
I'm not saying that the .41 Rem was a deadly (moderator deletion of profanity) , just saying that a 1" .22 isn't the answer ..OK ?
41cal ,125gr? @ 400fps=?VS .22cal,@ (1'bbl. ?? (I can dig out my books)=???
Just off the top of my head........Heads to basement......????
There was the Simerling?sp?.45acp. , but I think that they only made 2-300 of these
Edited by Chris Kavanaugh (01/27/07 05:41 AM)
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#83845 - 01/27/07 02:46 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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Products have been marketed in this size-arena since before cartridges were invented, they have never proven themselves Worthwhile however to have a market...................................................................................
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#83846 - 01/27/07 02:47 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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I agree that a .41rf is probably better than a 1" .22rf, but the "best" pocket pistol ever, that I have a hard time with. If you like the two shot derringer, Remington copies have been made it .38spl, .357, .44 mag (I don't want to be around when that one goes off), and probably bigger calibers.
But if you define pocket pistol as a pistol you can carry in your pocket, I carry my Kahr MK40 in a DeSantis pocket holster all the time, and I will take it over any two shot ever made...
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#83847 - 01/27/07 02:54 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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Well, you said this: The best to date IMHO, was the remmington .41 Derringer.(often copied, never equaled) And then you said this: I'm not saying that the .41 Rem was a deadly MO-FO, just saying that a 1" .22 isn't the answer ..OK ? You, my friend, have me "Powerfull confused" <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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#83848 - 01/27/07 03:00 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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I carry my Kahr MK40 in a DeSantis pocket holster all the time, and I will take it over any two shot ever made... How do you like your Kahr? I thought about a PM9 but I decided on a Sig 239 (a little bigger.) I might still spring for the Kahr come tax refund time though.... Oh, and my pocket pistol is a P3AT in a Desantis. Balances out the Bic and the KF4 in my other pocket... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#83849 - 01/27/07 03:05 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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I love it. Bought it right after they came out, no telling how many rounds I have fired with it, never a jam or bobble. It points where I look, I don't have to even think about the sights at 15 yards or under. I might swap it for the plastic frame version, but just can't justify the expense...
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#83850 - 01/27/07 03:06 AM
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Never said that a.41 Rem. was a good round, nor do I defend itt, presonably I think it sucks, it lust happens to be the "best" within the question...........................................................through me under the buss as U will
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#83851 - 01/27/07 04:59 AM
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Yes as I stated "often copied, never duplicated" a.44 mag "copy" has been made' but why would you want one, there have been 45-70 copys- do you want one of them??
I speak of the genuine article hear - have you ever touched one?????
To the point, most copys have been somewhat large, and have been made of poor mattls.
And more to the point:
Show me a good (true) "Pocket pistol" the "Indrustry " has been marketing them sciencs before the civil war, and i"ve yet to see one
'Tho I don't believe that the "indrustry"cannot supply a better suited arm to us, I cannot imagine why
Edited by Chris Kavanaugh (01/27/07 05:44 AM)
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#83852 - 01/27/07 05:16 AM
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"...have you ever touched one..."
In fact I have.
I guess that defining a pocket pistol is kindasorta like defining porn...
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#83853 - 01/27/07 05:40 AM
Re: The diminutive .22
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I really didn't mean to get back into the whole caliber debate, but I suppose that was a little naive of me, anytime you mention a gun and caliber in the same post it's bound to come up.
Let me clarify, I would never presume to state that the .22 is the ideal round, the facts just don't justify it. One could make the argument to it's superiority over say the .25 or maybe the .32, but even that is stretching it.
When I am working or spending time in the city, I have a .38 or a 9mm, and I would probably still be outgunned caliber wise in most encounters. The only arena my NAA .22 commands is in the B.O.B. If I hike up Mt. Whitney or Old Baldy, every ounce is carefully chosen and agonized over. If I was to be perfectly honest with myself, I would have to admit that any gun at all is probably an unneccessary burden, but never-the-less one I am unwilling to give up.
I apologize to anyone who misconstrued my post as suggesting that the .22 is the ultimate caliber, I didn't say it initially and don't claim it now. If you are physically fit enough to carry a fully loaded .44, .45, 9mm, etc., etc., in your B.O.B., along with all the other essential gear a prudent person should have, then more power to you, I guess I'm just not that strong or willing enough to carry extra weight I have a 99.99% chance of never needing. My first time hiking up Mt. Whitney, I carried about 40lbs. in my pack and was completely miserable. The second time I did Whitney, I left about 20lbs. of the unneccessary gear home and had a great time!
My question to those of you who would tell me how worthless my NAA .22 would be if I ever had to use it is, How often had you needed to use your weapon? My guess is not all that often, so instead of playing the odds (way in my favor), that nothing will happen and not carrying anything, I carry the NAA in my B.O.B.
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