The 'Belt Pro Survival Kit' from the Pro Survival Kit Company is no longer available. Nor even the belt without contents anymore. Does anyone know of a similar kit or a sturdy zip belt for one to assemble their own kit in?
Simple Simon

If I'm remembering correctly, wasn't it similar to this: http://www.cil.com/merchant2/merchant.mv..._Code=002-40027

However, I don't think the pocket on this one is as big. It would still hold a few vital items though. I'm already thinking about getting one to carry a Spark Lite, tinder, purification tabs and a cut down oven bag in. Hmmm....

Edit: here's another link with a betterview: http://www.eaglecreek.com/accessories/security_id/All-Terrain-Money-Belt-40441/

Make your own like otzi did <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

http://www.primitiveways.com/Iceman.html

Great read, thanks for the link.

I have the Eagle Creek and use if for international travel, or flying in the US.

Plastic buckle makes security a bit easier.

I carry a few $100 dollar bills, a twenty, a copy of my passport and a list of important numbers for the country in which I am traveling.

I am not sure how much useful gear you could comfortably put in there.

Otzi died, perhaps we should look elsewhere for survival tips...

Only jesting. We can learn alot about survival from primative man. Though this forum and Equipped.org are designed for reviewing the "gear" that we should have for a survival situation, it's important to remember that man got along just fine in the days before GoreTex, LEDs, S30V knives, and Bic lighters. The best gear is between our ears. I'd like to see more scenarios posted on the forum so we can all benfit from learning new techniques and different ways of doing things. Some things that I would like to learn better are for example, whats the best fire lay in a light rain, how many feet thick should the walls of a debris hut be, how to strip bark and make it into cord. Gear is great, but as Otzi proved it doesn't take much, and the important thing is to know how to use what you do have on you at the time.

Matt

"Otzi died.."

Actually he was killed. They found blood DNA from 4 other individuals on his body and he had an arrow in his shoulder.

I read the link too, I was just making a failed attempt at humor. Sorry, looking back it was somewhat tasteless. I just thought that it is somewhat ironic that you can learn survival tips from someone who died. We would have never gained any survival knowledge from Steven Callahan or Araon Ralston had they perished. Yet becuase Otzi died in a specific area that preserved him and his tools, we were able to learn alot about his survival techniques. Again, sorry for the bad joke. As you can tell from the rest of that post, I have immense respect for the ways of primative man and wish I knew more about those forgotten ways.

"...They found blood DNA from 4 other individuals on his body and he had an arrow in his shoulder..."

Making a big assumption that the other four DNA'a were human, and came from the same incident, it would be really interesting to be able to go back and view that encounter from above. One guy with an arrow in him, four others get close enough to bleed on him (sounds like he got in his licks on them) . Must have been one heck of a guy...

Thanks for the tips everyone. Otzi sounds a bit high tech for me, but the eagle creek stuff has a good reputation. I'll try one of their belts. Looking at the Pro Survival pocket kit it has virtually the same contents as the belt had. Does anyone know if the plastic packaging will fit a belt?

I think Otzi would have a lot to teach us. He seemed to have his every day survival down pat. It appears his last attempt was to drop everything he could replace and just keep his EDC (belt w/ pouch) and his birch container carrying his ember. If he was not slain he would have probably had no problem crossing the mountains.
I find stories about Otzi and Ishi to be very educational. They both were capable of surviving the "stone age" even though Ishi lived much more recently.

I now get that you were joking about Otzi; yes dead people are not great survival instructors unless the dead can talk. Then they could tell us what they did wrong or what they could not overcome.

Otzi would have had a metal knife off you so fast.......

His gear was state of the art in his day. And I for one will take any edge (pun intentional) that I can get.

Put me up against some one (not Ray Mears!) who thinks that we should be using "primitive." Three guess's as to what happens next......

Using primitive techniques and knowing how are different things.
Yes I would rather have a Bic lighter but knowing how to start a fire by friction is a great fallback to have.
So many skills have been lost in just a few generatons, don't mock the primitive. Your state of the art designer metal knife is a child of Otzi's flint tools.

> Plastic buckle makes security a bit easier.

It also tends to break. It happened to an Eagle Creek belt I owned, and I've seen other people mention the problem online.

In the context of the belt (i.e. the original link posted and response of mine) I posted it simply because I prefer a nice leather belt (and it does look pretty nice IMO) to some chincy looking plastic belt with woven fabric.

Just do a google search for "web money belt," or "leather money belt," and you will find more belts with hidden zippered compartments than you can shake a stick at. Keep in mind that most of these are pants belts, so I'm not sure how much stuff, other than paper money, you can stuff in one...

This one might be closer to what I think you are looking for...

The belt capacity varies a bit. I found with the Eagle Creek one I could get in a 1L zip lock bag and some water treatment pills. My current belt is slightly narrower (by about a millimetre) and won't take the bag but will take the pills.

My current belt also has a short length of ferro rod, a half-length of hacksaw blade, and some tinder card that will take a spark. It has some safety pins and paper clips and some rubber bands. This is in addition to some paper money.

The hacksaw blade was full length, but eventually it snapped. Which is a shame as I live in an urban environment and want to be able to cut through metal in extremis. (I was also going to use it to cut my own ankle off, if ever I found myself in real extremis. I've see the Jigsaw movies.) A scalpel blade would fit, but I don't have the bottle to carry something as dangerous as that in my belt.

Basically I am currently a big believer in using money belts for every-day carry of survival items. Just having water treatment and fire-making is a boon.

"...some water treatment pills..."

You might want to keep in mind that, once the bottle is opened, the effective life of most, if not all, water treatement pills is shortened greatly...

If you tape the scalpel-blade to the hacksaw-blade, or a small piece of credit-card, it can't penetrate (sp??) the belt.

My scalpel blades fit perfectly in those little Listerine Strips Pocket Pak packages. Its just the right size. It will also hold a couple of butterfly closures. You can get them at Walmart with a key ring attatched also.

These pill are still in their foil packaging. They've not been exposed to air.

I'm more concerned about the effect of my body warmth on their shelf-life.

I've never seen them in foil, only in bottles. What brand are they, and where did you get them???

They are Boots-branded Micropur tablets, from a local (UK) chemist. I am fairly sure they are made by Katadyn. ETS shows a similar product in the Water and Food Group page but they are not identical. The ETS ones are in foil but are much bigger than mine. Mine are in strips that look like the ones near the bottom of the Katadyn page. Also, the ETS page says the active ingredient is chlorine dioxide and the Boots ones use silver.

Many thanks...

I found a nice Money Belt at REI while surfing around. It looks like it's good quality.

REI Money Belt