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#82631 - 01/11/07 09:59 PM Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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It's winter hiking season in the White Mountains. There was a rescue early today of a couple hikers. At least they were prepared enough to bundle up and hunker down until they could get help. We'll get one of these every couple weeks now until spring.

Here's the initial story:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_ham...rigid_mt_adams/
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#82632 - 01/11/07 10:15 PM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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I love this line
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Officials believe the layers of clothing Calkins was wearing helped protect him from cold.
gee, ya think?
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#82633 - 01/11/07 10:28 PM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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Yeah, it's amazing, layers of clothing, who knew! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Think about the folks that suited up and went out on the Mt Adams rescue. They said it was 14 below and the wind was blowing at 70 mph... I wonder what "shelter" they are talking about. I've hiked Adams in the summer, and there's an AMC Hut, the Madison Springs Hut that's on the route to Adams, but, it's closed after September I think. Some of the huts had a shelter room that's left unlocked through winter, I don't know if the Madison one does. I know that often some folks from AMC are part of the teams up there, and maybe they have emergency access to the huts also.

I did volunteer SAR in the Whites when I was in college, and for a few years after, and it was nasty work. I haven't done that in many years. At the time though, we always went, almost in any conditions, thinking that one of these days, it might be us, because we were all hiking, climbing, skiing, snowshoeing, etc. I don't think I'd want to be doing that now, with a family at home, but, I have a lot of respect for the folks that put it on the line for us.
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#82635 - 01/12/07 01:30 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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I believe most of the huts leave their cellars open. Dont quote me on that one though. I know they had an incident a few years back where someone sheltered a storm in the basement portion of a hut (not sure which hut though). It may just have been unlocke,d or they could have broken in. IIRC, someone said it was left open "just in case".
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#82636 - 01/12/07 02:49 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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White Mountains: those non-threatening-looking hills (sorry, but I'm from the West) of central NH? With winds that blow about 150 mph? Windchill down to a zillion below zero? Where lots of people make the news because they've either had to be rescued or died there, but people keep doing it?

WOW! That's the kind of place I would like to hike in winter!

Definition of 'idiot': A person ... having a mental age below three years and generally being unable to guard against common dangers. (I left out all the more offensive stuff)

Let the fools find their own way out. Or pick up their bodies in late spring. Got bears? Never mind.

If they knew what they were doing, they wouldn't have had to call for help, would they?

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#82637 - 01/12/07 02:53 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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I think you're right, I know many of the huts have some area that you can enter and get out of the weather. I found some other details on the NH Fish and Game site:
http://www.wildlife.state.nh.us/Newsroom/News_2007/News_2007_Q1/Search_2_Rescues_011107.htm

Apparently they called 911 at 3:30pm yesterday. They were on a "day hike". If they were on a day hike, and were still above tree line at 3:30pm, they hadn't planned too well. I think sometimes it's hard to come to the realization that you're out of your league, and might need some help. By that time, they should have long since realized they were in trouble. By waiting so long, the SAR team was out in the worst conditions, at night, looking for folks that didn't really know where they were. It sounds like their cell phone eventually died, but, they had a rough location at that point. These folks might have been kinda frosty by morning. The team found them at 1am. Good thing they had a winter sleeping back with them to stay somewhat warm waiting for help.
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#82638 - 01/12/07 03:17 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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Remember officials often have electronics in their faces by Pultizer hungry media. If they get asked a obvious question your going to get an obvious answer. And lets give the lost pair some credit. They were well dressed and carried the single most critical item for their survival, the sleeping bag. They also called for help and followed instructions. So the mentallity that got them into trouble made the quantum leap into one to get out of trouble. Assuming some future soul reads about this and goes hiking on Adams, maybe they will dress in layers and bring a bag and cellphone?

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#82639 - 01/12/07 03:24 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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Lost above the treeline. . . let me think about that for a second. . . How do outdoors type people get lost? Billions of tax dollars invested in a GPS system and folks won't invest in a small GPS receiver to make use of what they've paid for. Map and compass? Just a compass? Come on people, how do you get lost?
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#82640 - 01/12/07 03:30 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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First year on ETS I got lost in December. No, I didn't have my PSK on me, just pocketknife and BIC lighter. But I followed the HUG A TREE program directions. My then girlfriend eventually found me. Man those Christmastree lots get bigger every year. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The only problem with these stories from the news is the inability to followup and see if the people learn <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

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#82641 - 01/12/07 04:19 AM Re: Winter Hiking Season... Mt Adams rescue
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I'm having a hard time with this being a DAY HIKE, they are ABOVE treeline, a storm (probably a forecast store at that) hits, they are lost, etc, and it is already AFTERNOON. My day hike would have me well below treeline by afternoon, I would have checked the weather before going up there in the first place, and of course I would have a map, compass, and GPS along...
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