I just bought an Italian mountaneering pack from Major Surplus<br><br>Jeez is it big. internal frame, kidney pad. two large outside compartments, leather and heavy canvas with a rubber coating on the inside and the pack is adjustable..<br><br>If you need to pack it full you can, otherwise you can tighten the cover down and shrink it down to a smaller size.<br><br>Its a heavy pack, but a good deal for the price IMO. looking forward to using it for hunting and camping this winter<br><br>Tim