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#80693 - 12/19/06 04:38 AM Re: Question for the cityfolk
ironraven Offline
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Yep, that's why with a good snow cave, a decent sleeping bag, a garbage bag (el cheapo bivy) and a couple candles, you can keep from freezing to death. It might not be warm, but you'll stablize around the low thirties, which is a lot better than negative low thirties. :P
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#80694 - 12/19/06 09:07 AM Re: Question for the cityfolk
Chisel Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 1563
Please dont throw me out this forum because of my question.
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In another thread about "teddy" someone mentioned the other kind of teddy that his wife may be wearing. Seeing this thread got me into thinking , if SHTF and it gets that coooold , Brrrrr how are people going to do what they have to do ? You know, you need to remove some of your clothing to do it ! And you cant trust blankets to cover your b**t. With the 'activitiy' blankets may come loose and fall right or left.. At least I know it happens.

Anyone knows any tricks for that ???

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#80695 - 12/19/06 09:51 AM Re: Question for the cityfolk
redflare Offline
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Registered: 12/25/05
Posts: 647
Loc: SF Bay Area, CA
Try zipping two sleeping bags together <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#80696 - 12/19/06 03:48 PM Re: Question for the cityfolk
KI6IW Offline
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Registered: 12/23/05
Posts: 203
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area, USA
I have field-tested this technique in the past. It is a most pleasant way to keep warm and can even generate heat without fire or fuel. Best tested and practiced before an emergency, to maintain proficiency. A source of sparks need not be carried in your kit, as they should be self-generating. YMMV.

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#80697 - 12/19/06 07:40 PM Re: Question for the cityfolk
Excomantia Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 98
Loc: Moved to my new home and now h...
Homo Sapiens survived quite a long time without much more then an open fire for a heat source, including periods where the average temperature was much lower then it is now.

In fact, barring major disease and wide-spread war, there has not been a period in history, that I can remember from my grade school lessons, that the population has not been on a steady rise.

Don't worry overly much about our ability to procreate in cold weather, we have done it before, and as long as we have the fertility and a large enough pool of genes, life will find a way.
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#80698 - 12/19/06 08:47 PM Re: Question for the cityfolk
Arney Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
Ironically, keeping warm in a snowcave may be easier than trying to keep warm at home. You may not really have a small enclosed space at home where a couple candles could stabilize the air temperature. A closet might work, if it wasn't too small to lie down comfortably in with all your blankets and such. Bathrooms are usually the smallest rooms in the house/apartment besides closets, but all that plumbing and tile might just suck all the heat away.

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#80699 - 12/19/06 09:24 PM Re: Question for the cityfolk
Craig_phx Offline
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Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I'd have a propane catalytic heater going in every room and a window slightly open for ventilation.

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#80700 - 12/20/06 12:41 AM Re: Question for the cityfolk
RobertRogers Offline
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Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 198
Remember, you can always try "Thinking Outside of the Box". If your city dwelling has no heat for the long term, why not build one of these right in your living room?

You can use ANYTHING available for insulation.

Another option is to invite as many people over as will fit in a room, and have a big party. All that animal body heat will make it as warm as a barn full of cattle. It may even become so sweltering you will have to open a window.
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#80701 - 12/21/06 05:57 PM Re: Question for the cityfolk
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
I live in an appartment in Montréal, we rely on electricity to heat our housing. During the Ice Storm of 1998 I just bugged out and joined relatives who have a fireplace in their Condo. That's probably what I would do now since we can get pretty cold weather during winter, down to -22 °F. That's a reason I'm looking for wool blankets and new Thermos but I would bug out for sure.

Frankie

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#80702 - 12/21/06 06:07 PM Re: Question for the cityfolk
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
If you don't have relatives with fireplaces, they will open heated public shelter and you'll have to bug out and live there until the electricity is back.

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