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#80538 - 12/17/06 07:46 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
smitty Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 11/01/06
Posts: 97
Loc: Missouri
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If you use ANY fuel burning appliance in your van at least have a battery opperated carbon monoxide detector in there with you!

Above is some good advise.

As I understand it, CO (Carbon Monoxide) is produced when fuels are burned with a poor supply of oxygen. Incomplete combustion. The sterno may indeed produce only CO2 and water when it is burning under ideal conditions, but here is what I would be careful about. If you burn the sterno in a vehicle where oxygen levels might become low, carbon monoxide may be produced because the sterno fuel is not burning completely.
Below is a list of sources that CAN produce CO.

Sources of carbon monoxide may include:
* boat motors
* cars
* charcoal grills
* cigarettes
* fireplaces (gas and wood) and wood-burning stoves
* gas ranges, ovens, dryers, water heaters, grills, furnaces and space heaters
* kerosene space heaters
* oil furnaces
* solid alcohol (such as Sterno Canned Heat)

smitty

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#80539 - 12/17/06 07:58 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
Susan Offline
Geezer

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Thank you, Frankie. I forwarded that site to the Sterno people with a request to comment or correct. I will post the results.

OTOH, as most warnings indicate, using something in a way that changes the conditions can cause unexpected results. Water can keep you alive or kill you, depending on circumstances.

Sue

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#80540 - 12/17/06 08:54 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
I read years ago that it is best to use aluminum pots over alcohol-based heat sources.

Sue

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#80541 - 12/17/06 08:58 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
JohnN Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 10/10/01
Posts: 966
Loc: Seattle, WA

Hmm. I don't see any chemical reason for that. My guess is that is because Al is a much better heat conductor than stainless, and with so little heat, you probably need all the help you can get...

-john

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#80542 - 12/17/06 11:41 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
311 Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 285
Loc: NY USA
A battery powered CO detector would be a good thing to have in the vehicle if you're burning anything in there, or running the engine for heat.

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#80543 - 12/18/06 12:24 AM Re: Portable Heat Source
snoman Offline
Member

Registered: 09/22/02
Posts: 181
How about one of those Mr. Heater "Portable Buddies"? They're not very expensive and run on small bottles of propane.

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#80544 - 12/18/06 12:56 AM Re: Portable Heat Source
OldBaldGuy Offline
Geezer

Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
They work great. We have a couple in our motorhome for when we are boondocking and don't want to run out house batteries down too much. But they are a tad bulky...
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#80545 - 12/18/06 01:02 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
norad45 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
Also, be aware that some types of sterno are now coming with a "wick". I don't know if this affects CO output or not, but it may be something to look out for. I use only the old style (plain gel) myself.

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#80546 - 12/18/06 01:09 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
norad45 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
Any open-flame heat source will deplete oxygen. Adequate ventilation is vital. I crack two windows to provide cross ventilation.

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#80547 - 12/18/06 01:10 PM Re: Portable Heat Source
norad45 Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
I wanted one but heard that they don't work over 7000 feet. Is that the case?

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