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| #79884 - 12/12/06 03:07 AM  Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
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The three men were experienced but none had ever climbed Mt. Hood before.  Any thoughts?http://www.foxnews.com/story/0 ,2933,235824,00.html
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| #79886 - 12/12/06 03:32 AM  Re: Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
|   Carpal Tunnel
 
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  That is virtually no information.Now is the time to be saying prayers to the deity of your belief for the men to be found ALIVE.
 Keep in mind that sometimes, despite the best plans of mice and men, things happen.  Like John Wayne said in his last movie, " you got to watch out for the third eye!"
 
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| #79887 - 12/12/06 04:33 AM  Re: Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  06/02/06
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 Rollins said conditions on the mountain were deadly, with hard ice, high winds and heavy snow. "There is no easy way off the mountain," he said.
 A note that the missing climbers left at a Forest Service station said they were taking "minimal gear," Doug Jones, a permit specialist with the Mount Hood National Forest, told The Oregonian newspaper.
  What does that mean?  What is "minimal gear" for two nights on Mt Hood in December?  For me minimal this time of year at 11KFT is still a lot of gear.  Were these guys going ultralight?  Hope their skills are up to it and they can hold out.    
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 Okay, what’s your point??
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| #79889 - 12/12/06 10:52 AM  Re: Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
|   Old Hand
 
 Registered:  11/25/06
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I think "minimal gear", as far as climbing goes, means the following; bivy sack, sit pad, water bottle, a LITTLE food, maybe one stove between them, a thermos, and probably an insulation jacket of some sort. They MAY have a sleeping bag between them (normal, just in case stuff). Thats what we used to carry for lightning summits. Very light; survival (or success) depended on speed.   |  
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| #79890 - 12/12/06 02:55 PM  Re: Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
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Found another story on CNN telling of their having had little survival gear:http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/12/missing.climbers.ap/index.html
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| #79892 - 12/13/06 04:38 AM  Re: Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
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   Registered:  11/17/06
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 Loc:  New Jersey
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When will  people learn? The outdoors should never be taken lightly. Yes it should be enjoyed. But it should also be respected. In the wilderness, unpredictability rules. Weather conditions change, alternate routes have to be taken, etc. They all need to learn to always be prepared for the worst. We all here on this site know this, but how many more senseless tragedies must they watch unfold in the media untill  they learn this valuable lesson?   
 Edited by Themalemutekid (12/13/06 04:46 AM)
 
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| #79895 - 12/13/06 08:49 PM  Re: Missing Climbers on Oregon's Mount Hood |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  01/21/04
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 Loc:  W. WA
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1.  "Nothing bad will ever happen to ME."
 2.  "If something does happen, someone will always come to rescue us."
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