I totally agree. I have tried most things out, and I will test this too. I really I have no idea what situation I might find myself in. I actually expect to be in a government shelter 100kms from home because home is flooded or has tipped into the dirt due to liquefaction. I do not expect to be in a field with just my bag. But then, I don't expect the Spanish Inquisition either (although in either of those situations the comfy chair would be most welcome).

The P38 test is scheduled for Monday. We only use the occasional can here, so I have had to wait, so the Coglan's can opener is what stays in the BOB for now (and yes, that was tested).

Now I need a small billy. I was thinking of a travel-sweet tin. They are about 10cm diameter and 4cm high, so should easily hold 1 cup of liquid. The lid of these tins is usually a reasonably tight fit, and I can put stuff inside it. I will have to keep the billy in something though as the outside will get blackened from the stove.

Thanks for the great comments (I'm still very excited that I was able to get hold of a genuine P38. It's really no big deal, but it helps to ground these discussions in reality and I can actually see, touch and hold the same items as you all talk about).

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