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#78897 - 12/06/06 01:52 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
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Loc: Bucks County PA
It's not a matter of missing a turn or not - it's a matter of missing a turn, going oh heck, and not being able to turn back to get to the correct turn, or, as I've found with my in-car GPS, missing a turn. but seeing an alternate route just ahead anyway, so no biggie, right? I'd be stunned if there was NOT a GPS in that vehicle.
But at this point, I think the game is over - they found his PANTS - which is a very, very bad sign.

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#78898 - 12/06/06 02:12 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
norad45 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
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Previous report regarding Kim carrying snowshoes may be incorrect

If true then this is very grim news indeed.

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#78899 - 12/06/06 06:39 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
posted by JohnN:
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For example, I just flew to San Jose for a couple days, and as a result I tore my kit apart and have yet to get it back together.

Likewise, we were hauling some stuff the other day and it took days for me to remember to re-load the kits into the Jeep.

Hopefully this will help remind people (it certainly has reminded me) that we do need to stay prepared, because things don't happen at convenient times.


i know exactly what you mean. i've been meaning to repack my FAK, adjust my daypack for cooler weather, etc, for a few weeks now. its so easy to put it off, but you're so right, this is a good reminder to keep your gear ready.

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#78900 - 12/06/06 07:22 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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Registered: 04/16/03
Posts: 1076
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...For example, I just flew to San Jose for a couple days, and as a result I tore my kit apart and have yet to get it back together...


I'm with you, brother. I flew back from Houston last week, so my on-person EDC and man-purse got completely turned upside down due to flying restrictions.

Regarding the James Kim situation:

1. It is easy to say "stay with the car/plane wreck" and it is usually true but there are situations where you either walk out or die. For example the Stolpa family, and that Air Force guy & his son lost on the snowy mountain in Turkey.

2. When I heard the news about SAR finding Kim's pants, the story also mentioned that they were using thermal detection devices. My immediate reaction was "won't matter, because his body temperature is now matching the ground temperature".

3. I have been studying real-life survivor accounts lately via "I Shouldn't Be Alive" DVDs and books like "Adrift". I really feel for the plight of the survivors in an expanded way because you begin to sense how iffy every decision can be. In "Adrift", Callahan describes how every decision he made had an upside and a very real potential downside.

There are few easy decisions in these situations. I pray the Kim family will find peace through all of this.

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#78902 - 12/06/06 08:55 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
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Looks like a body was just found.
I wish the best for his family after this terrible loss.

Perhaps SOME good might come of this, as it may bring to light the potential for tragedy and the ened to be prepared...even if you're just driving home.

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#78904 - 12/06/06 09:08 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
One of the Seattle TV stations just had a gal from REI do a segment on winter travel and goodies to have. She included AN (as in one) energy bar for food. Anyone think that you can stretch one energy bar into any length of time at all???
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#78905 - 12/06/06 09:53 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
norad45 Offline
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A sad ending. Condolences to the family, and sincere thanks to all of the searchers.

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#78906 - 12/06/06 09:57 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
This is very sad news Izzy, although we were all expecting it here. I don't have much experience in the outdoors but reading 98.6 by Cody Lundin was an eye opener where he stresses so much the importance of thermo-regulation.

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#78907 - 12/06/06 11:10 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
duckear Offline
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Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 478
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One of the Seattle TV stations just had a gal from REI do a segment on winter travel and goodies to have. She included AN (as in one) energy bar for food. Anyone think that you can stretch one energy bar into any length of time at all???


The avg american could actually benefit from missing a meal or two or ten.

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#78908 - 12/06/06 11:23 PM Re: James Kim: Snowbound Vehicle Info and Analysis
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
My condolences to the Kim family, really sad.

For those who are unfamiliar with the area, take a look at the slide show Here. The ruggedness of the terrain is beautiful to see when you're driving through on I-5 in a nice warm car. Check out the shots of the helo.


(AP Photo/Oregon State Police/HO)

The terrain is very rugged, not an area to get lost in and start breaking a new trail.
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