Thanks for the come-back ole'baldguy, Ya asked about the ringer washer, yes, we have elect. to run the washer, also a generator, and if all else fails, got a solar aray to harmonize with nature if needed, however, we havn't gotten to the point of getting everything up and running yet... waiting for the temps to get back above -0- first... <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Meanwhile the laundry keeps piling up... <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />