There are two things that greatly distress infantrymen in enemy territory. One is running out of ammo & the other is getting separated from your unit.

Thanks for the info.

At the risk of sounding repetitive, how is it again that torn clothes in a chaparral environment constitute a survival situation? I grew up in the chaparral and coastal sage scrub of SC myself, and I know about how hard it is to bushwack through it. But even if my clothes were dirtied and stressed, never did they get torn, and even if they did I can't see how their getting torn could put me in any kind of survival situation. Maybe in the artic, but not in the chaparral.

OK, you popped the waist button on your pants, and they won't stay up without the button. You have too much stuff in your pockets for a safety pin to hold the weight. Or you have a day/fanny/whatever pack with you and a critter chews a hole in it one night. Thanks to the hole the fabric starts tearing, and you are in danger of losing all of the goodies inside. Or a strong wind comes up and keeps blowing your hat off. You could sew that button back on, repair the tear, and stitch some paracord on for a chin strap. At least that is what those of us who carry a needle and tread could do. You would be SOL, but that is your choice.

I could probably think of more, but I am getting a headache from reading all of this sometimes childish bickering...

Lets hear a big Amen on that! Now your just arguing.

Ahhh, the argumentative " I am not a troll" troll.

At least we are not arguing about how many fireman can dance on the head of a pin, we are arguing if the pin is even needed!

And when you are finally backed into a corner, you will insist we "thank you" for being our Socratic father, making us look so deeply and thoughtfully at ourselves etc etc.

TTFN or ta ta for now as Tigger used to say.

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Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
-Blast

Ok, tell you what. If it makes you feel any better, when I get around to my needle and thread, I'll keep a length in my wallet, for convenience sake, but it won't go in my PSK. This is the only point I'm trying to illustrate. AGAIN, I couldn't care less what you keep in your PSK, or if you even have it on you or not when you need it. That being said, neighbor, "May the cold wind bite, and the wolves howl in delight at the chance to gnaw your bones!" I love nature more than I love any of you, humans.

The beauty of this country is that we can all do whatever we (more or less) wish. We don't have to agree on everything. You raised some good points. So did others.

I'd rather do less with more, instead of more with less. I plan on keeping the needles and thread in my Ritter PSP. And there is a small spool of thread along with a needle buried in my pack. But that's what *I'm* choosing to do.

We're all right and wrong at the same time.

Can we please return to being civil? C'mon, it's the friggin' holidays. I've got enough trouble trying to resist cold turkey sandwiches. <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

You may need a needle and thread in the event you rip your pants.

Jeanette Isabelle