I always love to get into these guns discussions as I am a certified "gun nut" according to my friends and co-workers. but that's ok, I don't qualify to be any sort of "survivalist" at least not in the sense of a negative label. anyone on this website I guess we can all be labeled something of the sort right. anyway, I think maybe the selection of your survival weapons largely depends on where you live...for instance, me in Alaska, that 454 might be a good option if I found myself living in a tent in the bush somewhere. the pump shotgun, is a must with slugs, buckshot, and bird shot. The 22 is a must if for nothing else than grouse, rabbits, and self defense. yeah, I know the .22 is not usually regarded as a self defense weapon, but in the hands of a guy that's shot a jillion rounds out of one, do not get shot by him as you will die from wounds to your noggin. Silliness aside, if your home is a bit ore urban, you would need to maybe consider a larger self defense weapon such as a Glock 19 or so in caliber and size. The 19 is a 9mm compact pistol in case your not familiar with the Glock line. A good supply of ammunition would already be in your garage., or apartment because you are the type of person who believes in being prepared right?? in the event of riots, or other urban chaos of sorts, I doubt the ability to run down to the Wal-Mart to grab a box of ammo would be a good idea. as for a rifle, even in the urban situation, my choice would be an AR-15, but if your budget doesn't allow such a thing, the Ruger Mini-14 is an outstanding piece for this type of work. I remember seeing several law enforcement guys and even some civilians with the Mini-14 slung over their shoulders during the chaos that ensued after Hurricane Katrina. The Mini-14 always fires, even after the AR-15 has gummed all up. I know because I am fortunate enough to own both. I would venture that we're not ever going to see a large scale breakdown in the society but major disasters always seem to bring out the worse in many. It is here that just having a weapon sometimes is the difference in living or dying at the hands of thugs that prey on the innocent during such times. Not meant to preach, or be on a soapbox, just a few opinions. thanks for the opportunity to express them to you.