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#74486 - 10/06/06 11:47 PM Re: Any suggestions on not losing a button compass?
Craig_phx Offline
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Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Make that 13 degrees. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#74487 - 10/09/06 05:52 AM Re: Any suggestions on not losing a button compass?
win Offline
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Registered: 09/17/01
Posts: 44
Loc: Hong Kong
What is Doug's impression on those Suunto Clippers? I have one in my kit.
I guess the most secure and slightly bigger just over half in diameter were the US Mil Issue Brass Button Compass with a brass loop with attached string. Its solid build and on what looks to be a card board- hope I am wrong <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#74488 - 10/09/06 08:45 PM Re: Any suggestions on not losing a button compass?
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
The trick with the Clipper is to melt the clip closed. That way it stays on your watchstrap. Otherwise use a Silva SERE 40.
My work watch has a '40 on it. My out of work watch has a Sunnto attached. They are always a better choice than the last ditch in your tin option.
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#74489 - 10/12/06 08:03 PM Re: Any suggestions on not losing a button compass
frediver Offline
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Registered: 05/17/04
Posts: 215
Loc: N.Cal.
Rough up the back of your compass to provide a more secure surface for epoxy to adhere to. Attach a spectra cord loop with epoxy putty, I used specrta fishing line. You could also attach a small brass fishing swivel.

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#74490 - 10/12/06 10:41 PM Warning about the Suunto Gem
KenK Offline
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Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2211
Loc: NE Wisconsin
I finally went out and bought a Suunto Gem since I've had my eye on owning one for a few years, but I never got around to buying one. Well, the bezel is so tight that it is almost unusable. Without using pliars I simply cannot rotate the bezel one complete revolution and it is all I can do to rotate it at all and it only goes between north and west (the long way around). Nice looking with lots of potential, but not well manufactured at all.

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#74491 - 10/12/06 11:24 PM Re: Any suggestions on not losing a button compass
NYC2SoCal Offline
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Registered: 10/31/05
Posts: 117
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Rough up the back of your compass to provide a more secure surface for epoxy to adhere to. Attach a spectra cord loop with epoxy putty, I used specrta fishing line. You could also attach a small brass fishing swivel.


I like that idea.. thanks!

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#74492 - 10/13/06 03:27 PM Re: Warning about the Suunto Gem
billym Offline
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 616
Loc: Oakland, California
return it for another one. I have one and the bezel turns just fine.
Remember that although it has the features of a baseplate compass it is still tiny and not ideal as primary compass.
The idea behind tiny button compasses is to let you know N-S-E-W.

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#74493 - 10/15/06 10:09 AM Re: Warning about the Suunto Gem
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
One point: Before you do anything or go anywhere off the beaten track, take the time to look at and commit to memory the most important features of the local area map. A photocopy, in a small ziplock bag, attached to your survival kit may be a life saver. Don't forget to annotate it with the little details you need - like magnetic north v grid north. Button compasses where originally designed for WWII S.E.R.E kits. Concealability is/was a major consideration. That means that they are easy to loose and are intended for rough direction keeping. As in if I go in this direction, I will get back to my own people/find rescue. Good idea, as far as it goes. But which direction? Which is why they had silk escape maps. We cannot do that. Hence the photocopy.
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#74494 - 10/15/06 05:40 PM Re: Warning about the Suunto Gem
billym Offline
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 616
Loc: Oakland, California
In the Pacific during WWII, US pilots called their E&E button compass
an "A--hole compass".

Fontunately for me I have one of those uncanny senses of direction and I love maps / charts. So I instinctively note my surroundings both physically and on a map even when I am not in the wilderness. This is why I never lose my car at the mall <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#74495 - 10/16/06 06:00 AM Re: Warning about the Suunto Gem
NYC2SoCal Offline
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Registered: 10/31/05
Posts: 117
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In the Pacific during WWII, US pilots called their E&E button compass an "A--hole compass".
<img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

and in different circumstances, it can be substituted.. In the POW camp, "No guard, I do not have a rolex watch, but I do have a compass" <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

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