#74325 - 10/03/06 05:35 AM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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newbie
Registered: 09/26/05
Posts: 29
Loc: Juneau, Alaska
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I think it's more like less reason to get married (you know the old story ... who keeps a cow if milk is free?), combined with more reason not to, like our current divorce laws.
Getting married still costs $50 and an hour at the court house. Getting unmarried costs everything you have, and most of what you will have. Every year, there are about half as many divorces as marriages. That's where that old ``statistic'' about ``half of all marriages end in divorce'' comes from. Given all that, why does anyone get married today?
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#74326 - 10/03/06 06:50 AM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 1821
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females has become less finacieel dependend on the male. Also people are becoming more individual than ever and put marriage lower on there list.
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#74327 - 10/03/06 11:13 PM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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Sultan of Spiffy
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Registered: 05/12/01
Posts: 271
Loc: Louisiana
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Oy. Talk about a survival question??..
Is it harder? Many of my younger friends say so; so do many of my contemporary single friends.
As to the why, I think it?s a number of factors (in no particular order): we live in a time of the immediate gratification, the rather easy divorce laws, little reason to make the commitment when you can do the same thing without it, commitments mean less these days, people often have unrealistic expectations of a mate, etc, etc. There is no simple answer.
My wife and I have been married for 19 years now. For me, the companionship, security, and reassurance that I derive from being married is immeasurable. We have shared wonderful times and very tough ones. And each seems to make us stronger. Has it been the stuff of romance novels? Nope. (?Happily ever after? is for children?s fairy tales?.) Am I the perfect mate? Um, nope. Is she? Nope. Is it the toughest job you?ll ever have? Yep. Marriages take work. Lots of work. And, a lot of patience. I think the latter is sorely lacking in many folks nowadays, which is another factor for the dilemma.
Also, it helps if your wife will, without a second thought, buy you an over-priced tin full of candy just because she thinks you might want the tin. In this forum, we call a mate like that a?.. ?keeper?. <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#74329 - 10/04/06 06:06 PM
Re: Love, not marriage.
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Journeyman
Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 75
Loc: Colorado
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I experience that sensation often. My wife and I are more than just "married". We're best friends and companions. I wish that more couples could experience what we have. I'm a lucky man.
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#74331 - 10/04/06 08:31 PM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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Veteran
Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
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A very lovely lady friend of mine told me that she wanted "perfect" in the man she marries. Her sister's married with two kids. I told her that if she wants "perfect", she had better enjoy being the left on the shelf maiden aunt.....
No one can expect "perfect". A decent man/woman, Yes. "Perfect", No.
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#74332 - 10/05/06 04:14 AM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 7
Loc: Colorado
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Many a nail on the head has been hit in this discussion. How about the view from a single guy?
I don’t' want kids, Marriage=Kids Wives are more annoying than I can take right now, Friends Wives=Annoying I can’t afford it. Wives=Money, Me=No Money I want to travel and do crazy things Wife=Fun killer I was raised with a standard of living I want to maintain Bad job+Schooling=NO MONEY I want perfection Human=Imperfection. I might move every 2 years and do things a couple can’t Wife=Stability Me=Not stable right now.
Generalizations, Yes, My opinions, Yes. Deal with it.
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#74333 - 10/05/06 05:18 AM
Re: Love, not marriage.
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Cranky Geek
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
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*nods in agreement with the green sage*
Marriage is a social custom, defined by local mores, traditions and laws. People get married for various reasons all the time, none of them terrible special or important.
Love is the real thing. Can't be regulated, taxed, or turned into a tool of state.
*growls* Yes, this mean, grumpy old bird is a closet romantic. And anyone who laughs or stares will find a fishhook in thier cereal one morning. A big one.
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When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.
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#74334 - 10/05/06 06:32 AM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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Addict
Registered: 12/25/05
Posts: 647
Loc: SF Bay Area, CA
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I want to travel and do crazy things Wife=Fun killer We travel and do crazy things together. Can't complain in that department
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#74335 - 10/05/06 07:09 PM
Re: Love, not marriage.
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Veteran
Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
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If you want to know what nasty looks like, try yours truely when I catch someone trying to wreak someone elses relationship. I have never found myself a soulmate and I get seriouly pissed off at people who have wreaked their own relationships and decide that because they ain't happy, no one else is going to have one either.
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#74336 - 10/05/06 07:31 PM
Re: greater difficulty to get marry nowadays?
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Registered: 04/28/06
Posts: 8
Loc: Mpls, MN
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A lot of it depends on what expectations that you have about marriage.
Suitability? perfect vs. average... Our popular culture teaches us to value the flash over the substance. This works great for photo-ops and sucks for long term marriages. Partnership, Communication, Common Interests and Relative Libedo are far more important. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Economics? Again depends on your expectations -- Are you looking for the 50's single income household with a picket fence? Is materialism a value that you share? Then, yes your income level going into a marriage is a big concern. Are you both looking to work as equal partners on the combined household, and seek out a less materialistic life? Then it's actually cheaper to get married or at least live together with the efficiency of shared resources.
In a survival situation? Its definitely valuable to have a second pair of hands that you can trust completely and psychologically healthier if you're isolated for even a short period of time. But, all these concerns are still the last reasons you should consider...
It's all about love...
(note to self: extra affection tonight for her crazy, nerdy and fuzzy hubby <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />)
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#74337 - 10/05/06 07:44 PM
Re: homewreckers
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Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 398
Loc: Tennessee
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Homewreckers are despicable -- male and female alike. I have seen way too many children grow up without a father or mother around because of them. Sure, the adulterer among the married couple is guilty and can start the affair, yadda, yadda, yadda.....but the homewrecker is a key ingredient that has to be there. Preachers, deacons, you name it: homewreckers come in all shapes and sizes.
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