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#74157 - 09/30/06 09:24 PM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
UTAlumnus Offline
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Registered: 03/08/03
Posts: 1019
Loc: East Tennessee near Bristol
To sue for libel wouldn't he have to be able to prove that the statement was false?

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#74158 - 09/30/06 10:59 PM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
its seems there are alot of stupid incidents since TSA implement new regulations.

does this mean pasengers will be affected too? what happend if we write this TSA head is stupid, will TSA arrest us ?

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#74159 - 09/30/06 11:37 PM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
Malpaso Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 817
Loc: MA
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They did not have sufficient cause for deliberate detention because no threat was communicated.


De jure and de facto are two widely different worlds. Try putting a sign in the rear window of your car that says "cops are stupid" and see if you don't get "detained".
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#74160 - 10/01/06 01:52 AM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
you're absolutely correct. Abuse of power abounds these days.
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#74161 - 10/01/06 03:17 AM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
No, Citizen, you aren't under arrest. You are just won a trip to a Relaxation and Therapy Facility administered by the Department of Re-education.... What, no, it isn't a school, it's a spa- it won't have any effect on your student debts.
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#74162 - 10/01/06 06:24 AM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
311 Offline
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Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 285
Loc: NY USA
There is no breach of freedom of speech. The TSA is just saying that a person who states negative things about the TSA may want to take things a step further, thus the investigation.

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#74163 - 10/01/06 03:16 PM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Yes there is. The right to tell someone that you think he is an idiot is a fundamental cornerstone of democracy. TWA are saying, in effect, that any criticism of TWA, it's Director or staff will result in detention.
Wait untill someone gives one of those idiot's a parade ground perfect Nazi salute.
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#74164 - 10/01/06 04:06 PM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
Simon Offline


Registered: 04/24/06
Posts: 398
Loc: Tennessee
Uh, TSA, not TWA.

Yep, it is a basic rule of the study of criminal justice that "Those who stay in power will eventually abuse that power." Just look at most politicians. The same goes for many jobs, including the TSA employees, apparently.

BTW, just food for thought, try to look at this situation from an entirely security vs. rights viewpoint: (hard, ain't it, if you know the whole story)

I think he was wanting it to happen, judging from reports of his behavior, but look what happened to the foriegn minister of Venezuela just a few days back. Was that a set up by him or abuse by the TSA or deeper? The Habla Espanol press was on call and handy I heard.
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#74165 - 10/03/06 04:53 AM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
I wonder what would happen if the next two or three hundred people going through the security check in that Milwaukee airport had 'Kip Brawley is an idiot' written on their clear plastic bags, their luggage, the front of their t-shirts and the backs of their jackets? <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sue

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#74166 - 10/04/06 11:12 PM Re: Writing on a toiletry bag results in detention
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
See, now that's the sort of inspired reasoning that keeps me coming back here. They'll look mighty worthless detaining 300 people for the same frivilous nonsense, won't they?
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