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#73381 - 09/15/06 05:00 PM .223 Case Rupture Resolution
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
Took the gun to a top-notch gunsmith, showed them the case and they reaced the same way as folks here - WOW! bad news.

I brought the ammo and the ruptured case.

Of course, they first checked that the barell was stamped .223 - it was.
Then they loaded a round, and the gunsmith immediately said it felt "funny" as the cartrige was "to far down" in the breech, which now that I look at it, it, it does NOT look like any of my other break-action weapons in terms of where the cartrige sites vs. the back of the breech. However, each gun is a little different, and when I loaded it, it actually looked like it was a normal fit, not flush to the back of the breach, but still it seemed to fit cleanly and correctly.
A quick casting determined that someone had modified the barrel to be a 22-250, with a trim-to of 1.902", which is larger than the 223 Remington - 1.750"- a difference of .152".

Unfortunately, the gunsmith neglected to modify the BARREL MARKINGS and as a result, the use of the .223 cartridge resulted in the situation.

Lessons learned:
- Trust no marking
- If it seems "funny" to you, it is! The loading of the .223 wasn't like any other break action I ever used, but I also never used a NEF Handi-Rifle.

-Each gun it a little different, but still, if you have any questions, find someone who knows better than you. I was impatient to try the gun, it's might cost me more than I paid to replace the barrel (I wanted a .223 NOT a 22-250) and repair the firing pin, if that's the case, this gun might be a total loss.



- I've just gotta stop buying used guns. The last used gun a bought before this was an SKS that came via mail order - with NO SERIAL NUMBERS ON IT. Torch cutting that one in the back yard in the pouring rain was unplesant. Now this.


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#73382 - 09/15/06 05:48 PM Re: .223 Case Rupture Resolution
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
AH - I had missed that this was the first round you ever fired in the gun! ( headslap here ) - yeah, all sorts of strange stuff when that is the case
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#73383 - 09/15/06 07:07 PM Re: .223 Case Rupture Resolution - slight change
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 2203
Loc: Bucks County PA
Jsut got off the phone with the gunsmith. It's NOT 22-250, it's "something else, we don't know what" and - a replacement barrel from NEF is $122 plus shipping, plus a report to the firing pin, plus shipping = I pulled the scope off the gun and gave the remains to the gunsmith for salvage...oh well, live & learn.

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#73384 - 09/16/06 03:57 AM Re: .223 Case Rupture Resolution - slight change
AyersTG Offline
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Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
Martin,

That's what I thought from your photos - it was not chambered for 223. Thank you for posting the info after seeing the gunsmith.

Tom

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#73385 - 09/17/06 02:39 AM Re: .223 Case Rupture Resolution
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Day-um! Lucky you got off as light as you did.

This is the one possibility I would never have thought of.

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