Well, you missed out on the Soviet Spetsnatz closeout, mercifully no longer imported by the vendor. The SOG's 'hammer' is an extended tang inspired by Fallkniven and more properly used to drive the blade into small trees using the scandinavian method. It's thick, @ 5/32 and carries about as well as an old model 28 Highway Patrolman. I saw one at a recent gunshow. I wanted to try the sawback on a barrel of surplus prop guns, but the ghilly suit clad vendor is still mad over my reply to his query about my support for swiftboat veterans for truth. Lifeboat Surfmen for Nader is still soliciting members. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> for $35 buy the thing and get it out of your system. <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />