We can no more stop global warming than we can stop continental drift. We had better spend our time and money on finding ways to cope with the changes.

Well I just got home from work and I'm kind of tired . So , I don't feel like typing a lot . All I can say is that if you don't believe that global warming is real or believe the earths climate isn't being effected by polution and deforestation then you should get your head out of your a$$. IMO , a lot could be done to stop the damage being done to the earth but greed , big corporations and politions like G.W.B. and his ilk will let things continue or make things worse .

"All I can say is that if you don't believe that global warming is real or believe the earths climate isn't being effected by polution and deforestation then you should get your head out of your a$$."

Yeah, you make a real compelling arguement there.

There have been at least seven previous ice ages according to most scientists. What stopped them?-global warming! I've never seen a fossilized Chevy Suburban being dug up next to a Wooly Mammoth.

So, read the scientific reports then. This one is fundamentally different based on the amount of C02 in the atmosphere and the rate of change.

No other warming period has had this pattern.

You nay-sayers are in the fraction of a percent of a minority. All but a handful of mainstream scientists are in agreement on this one. Instead of mouthing off here, go read the actual reports, then find actual evidence to refute them. Then you'll have something new to present here.

"Instead of mouthing off here, go read the actual reports, then find actual evidence to refute them. Then you'll have something new to present here."

Unless I missed something, this is still a public board, meaning that anybody is free to voice an opinion as long as it is kept civil. So I am going to continue to "mouth off" here about various subjects. I hope that is alright with you.

Here is an alternate theory about global warming. Enjoy.

Norad45,

Hey, that was a facsinating article, thanks for posting it.

-Blast

Norad45 ---- I respect your right to " mouth off " and hope you continue to do so . Thats what forums are for . You are certainly entitled to your opinions . But , Just because Fox News does a report about the theorys of a couple of scientists from Denmark doesn't really mean anything IMO. . Fox news is notorious for being extremely biased in favor of right wing republicans and GWB . What about the majority of scientists in the world who believe Global warming is being caused or , at least , accelerated by greenhouse gasses produced by polution. I'm a very slow typer so I don't want to wright a long post on the subject . I just hope that you , or anyone , will keep an open mind and not rely on just one source for information .

As a scientist myself I have to chime in here. First, most new scientific discoveries are found by "a couple of scientists" ala Pasture, Fleming, Einstien, etc.. It usually takes the radical loner to break out of the scientific box.

Second, "majority of scientists blah blah blah". Quite frankly, once you get out of their narrow field of study most scientists don't know their head from there @$$ (me included). It's kind of like saying "a majority of plumbers agree on why the N.O. levees failed". A good article on this can be found here , though being from the Wall Street Journal I sense you may not trust it...

To me it boils down to we only have truely accurate data for a VERY short period of time compared to the history of the Earth. Making assumptions based on this data (especially in light of conflicting data!) leads to erroneous results. What did Prof. Dumbledore say to Harry? Something like, "I am a very smart and powerful man so when I make a mistake it's usually a very big one."

I'd write more, but I'm going camping instead. A nice (though not unusual) cool front has blow in here in Houston and I want to take advantage of it. <img src="/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

-Blast

Now there's the perspective!!!

Change is inevitable. No one can argue that things are getting warmer right now, or that there are reasons why. Even if we shut down the whole process tomorrow, things will likely continue on their merry path, getting warmer or colder, or whatever it is that this planet, with all it's dynamics, will do. Industrial pollution isn't the sole source of all that is bad, nor all that is changing our planet. If we are really worried about greenhouse gases and global warming, we have the technology to remediate our environment to whatever we think it ought to be. The question is then, how much influence do we really think we have over what is happening, and would we be reacting to a situation that is as natural as the North of Africa suddenly drying up into a huge desert.

This planet, with all it's diversity and dynamics, is going to go on doing it's thing despite whatever we do to it. Change is inevitable. If you want to find a way for humanity to go on, better find a way to adapt to whatever comes. Yeah, it could be man-made, but it doesn't necessarily have to be, and if it isn't what implications does our response have?

So it is getting warmer, so what? If it is meant to be, then that's that. I'll say it again, it is pure arrogance for man to think he has this much impact on this planet. If the Amazon turns into another Sahara, life will still go on. If North America freezes up, life still goes on. What happens if we go to all the trouble of cutting our emissions down, and the planet continues to heat up (or cool down) anyways, or the big rock comes down, or the caldera goes critical, or someone pushes the big red button?

If our past tells us anything, it says that we will deal with it, and get on with doing what we do best.