Thanks for the response and feed back. I guess I paint what I consider survival gear with a broader brush then most folks. My kits are layered; On body/EDC ETS PSK, SAK Ranger or Forester, lighters ect and the clothes on my back, Next is BOB under my desk. He has redundant stuff as well as more effecient or convenient stuff, Then I have my long stay pack in the car along with more appropriate clothes ( adjusted to season ) extra food/ water ect. and then is home. I can only garante access to whats on my person and if I'm clothed and have my EDC I'm GTG. At 0-dark-30 when I'm in my skivvies, a little improvization is in order. I'm always trying to access the next levle up kit. Jim P.S. I have a pocket chain saw too, Aint they great?

Right. I don't think anyone would argue against your initial post here, so I'm not sure what you are looking for. If backpackers and campers viewed their kit with survival in mind, it means they are up to date on contents and use of said kit. It's certainly above and beyond.
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EDC is intended to be the very minimum you would feel comfortable with in any situation. With a given task what you carry may change in size and complexity. Usually you add to your EDC, not take away. I have several levels of what I carry and I've seen the same both from DR himself and from many others on the forum.

I guess what I'm saying is that it probably isn't necessary to carry a backpacker's kit all the time, but if you do so with survival in mind as you say, then that kit should be multitasking, centered around survival, light as possible, easy to carry, and reuse kept in mind (a real pot vs. Tinfoil comes to mind).

What exactly were you looking for with your post? I think most folks here would tend to agree with that, and if you aren't really asking any questions, I don't know how far we can go with it when everyone sees it largely in the same way <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

When i hike mine kit is my survival kit, i just don't called it a survival kit, because i'm not in trouble. Just doing my thing.

My real survival kit is the backup for mine hiking kit. Incase i loose my kit. You know wenn something bad happens like falling in the water and see it float away.

For EDC most of my hiking kit is just to darn large, heavy, etc. I do use some of my hiking kit in mine BOB.

I posted already to your similar, earlier thread, so I won't repeat my crossover list here, but:

I'll reiterate that there is crossover between survival gear and backpacking gear - though no individual item is guaranteed to be optimal for both.

I do a lot of lightweight/ultralight backpacking, and the gear I take on those trips (including a PSK and FAK) will let me survive and get out of trouble in that specific situation...but it's not the gear I'd choose for durability and long-term survival. Much of it is not the gear I'd choose for an aviation survival kit.

Either way, I get to to use the equipment for real (at least lots of it), test it out, think about it, and am continually improving my ideas for all of my kits as a result. Backpacking's a great arena for that...

i agree. backpacking stuff and survival gear is about the same. the only difference, which can be a big one, that i can think of is that backpacking gear has to be easily re-usable, relatively easy to get to, and durable. thats actually been a dilema of mine is that backpacking gear has to be accessible and re-useable and therefore cannot be packed down like a really slim survival kit. i'm always envious of those ultra trim survival kits/BOB's cause they're so small and compact, but i know that most wouldn't work for me.

The point thseng touches upon is important.

As a backpacker, I make a conscious decision to head off into the wilderness (or perhaps the not-so-distant trail) having prepared in advance to take care of myself over a period of time. Barring sudden accidents and unexpected events, one would assume that I have prepared water, shelter and food for the length of time I plan to spend hiking, I am familiar with the terrain, I have made allowances back home for my absence etc.

On the other hand, I often mix my every day carry with the extra and specialised items I would only use when spending nights outside. Similarly, I often carry a couple of lightweight items if I am merely hiking, just in the event that the weather turns or I am forced to overnight.

I'll post some pictures in another thread to illustrate what I mean.