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#71709 - 08/23/06 06:53 AM Re: Sleep pad?
Raspy Offline
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 351
Loc: Centre Hall Pa
The problem with the foil/bubble wrap insulation is that it is designed as building insulation not as a sleeping mat. It is not really rugged enough to go between you and the ground. You will end up punching holes throudf the foil and popping bubbles. But it does work great as an add on bottom layer for a hammock. But as someone else said it is a bit bulky.

By the way I know about both cases becauuse I had the same idea a while ago and tried it. Ended up with a Swiss cheese mat. Which is not that much padding to start with. Not that comfortable at all. As lower insulation for the bottom of a hammock it works especially in winter camping. But not any better than a space blanket. The spase blanket contributes much less bulk to the sleeping system.
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#71710 - 08/23/06 07:11 AM Re: Sleep pad?
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
honestly, after years of trying to do it on the cheap, my vote goes for thick (1.5") or more thermarest or REI brand sleep pad. as soon as i can afford it i'm upgrading from my thick foam pad. sleep is very important. at least to me. but then agian, i always carry a full size pillow in a compression sack when i backpack so i might be a little biased for comfort.

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#71711 - 08/23/06 08:29 AM Re: Sleep pad?
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
"Lightweight" and comfort are, as a general rule, contradictions. I use a proper, full sized Thermorest. Closed foam mats are really designed for soft ground or for use on snow. CF's come in different weights. They are graded from light 1-2 season summer use to 5 season Artic/Mountain use. And are priced accordingly.
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#71712 - 08/23/06 04:36 PM Re: Sleep pad?
wolf Offline
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 329
Loc: Michigan
I'm for the Thermorest (or similar). I've used on for years, including as a bed on a daily basis (I never replaced my bed that was destroyed in a flood 7 years ago). I was very comfortable until my dog attempted to eat it. Needless to say it soesn't work as well anymore, but I will be getting another one. I consider it to have been one of my best purchases for camping. (Along with a litle pot grabber - I love that thing!)
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#71713 - 08/23/06 04:46 PM Re: Sleep pad?
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Registered: 01/23/06
Posts: 20
Alot of good recommendations here. I'm in North Central Wisconsin if that helps. It's about a 20% chance that the ground will be frozen solid. At the very least it will probably be quite damp. That's why I thought of the foil/bubble stuff, seeing it's waterproof. At least until I puncture it.
Money isn't really an issue here, just weight, bulk and comfort. I don't mind paying for the good stuff.

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#71714 - 08/24/06 03:35 AM Re: Sleep pad?
David Offline
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Registered: 10/09/02
Posts: 245
Loc: Tennessee (middle)
Dave--

Spring for the Thermarest (or something very similar). You can get full sized, or 3/4 length. I have both, & wouldn't trade either of them. I've slept quite comfortably in the low 20s.

Get a patch kit, too...though I've never used mine.

David

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#71715 - 08/24/06 04:31 AM Re: Sleep pad?
redflare Offline
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Registered: 12/25/05
Posts: 647
Loc: SF Bay Area, CA
Hmm.
For some reason I didn't get a notification about this post. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Anyway, I am fairly certain its this item at REI.


Edited by redflare (08/24/06 04:32 AM)

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#71716 - 08/24/06 03:16 PM Re: Sleep pad?
Anonymous
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Ah. Thank you...

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#71717 - 09/01/06 06:05 AM Re: Sleep pad?
desertrat1 Offline
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Registered: 02/16/06
Posts: 144
Loc: Kingman AZ
Sorry, I'm an Old Guy, I use a pad that is basically 1 1/4 in. thick X 3 ft. X 7 ft closed cell foam covered in heavy canvas. It doesn't roll up very small, but keeps the old bones off the ground.
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#71718 - 09/01/06 03:04 PM Re: Sleep pad?
unimogbert Offline
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Registered: 08/10/06
Posts: 882
Loc: Colorado
I've used a Ridgerest closed cell pad for many years of backpacking. It looks like it's been chewed up from enduring miles of bushwhacking but it still pads and insulates.
My regular hiking buddy is too soft for just a ridgerest so he also carries a Thermarest (self-inflating) pad. Trouble with the t-rest is that it loses a lot of its function if punctured.
The RR takes up some space but is indestructible and weighs nearly nothing. That's my choice.

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