Ade, if people didn't disagree, then there would be no need for this conversation, no? :)<br><br>This unrealeted to Ade's post, but I want to economize my postings:<br><br>People have mentioned Less-Than-Leathal rounds, like rubber slugs. LTL is great, so long as you have some leathal to back it up. It's used in law enforcement with a partner, or at least a sidearm, loaded with something terminal right behind it. <br><br>Also, most rubber ammo is designed for riot control, not room clearing, and is ment to be bounced of the pavement into the legs and abdomen at ranges of greater than 12 feet. At home defense ranges, directly fired, the only LTL rounds I know of that will still be LTL are bean bags and pepper/stinkballs (paintballs loaded with pepperspray or synthetic skunk oil). <br><br>A bouncy ball, fired directly, at 10 feet, will about equal a musket ball at the same range when it runs into soft tissue.