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#71085 - 08/11/06 06:16 PM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
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Wich types of Mora's are there? What do you use?

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#71086 - 08/11/06 07:49 PM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
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well there are actually 3 manufatures in a place called Mora. They all make very similair knifes. The one imported in holland are primarily made by Frost. The intire imported line is right here(they do make a lot more models): http://www.homeij.nl/index2.asp?pagina=a...42%26rubrid%3D6

i have the Frost "trainings knife", which is a very simple green colored knife with plastic handle, plastic sheath and plain carbon steel. For survival use, i would recommend one of the plastic handle versions. Rubber gripped one's if you want more grip, since the plastic ones can be quite slippery. They have 3 kinds of steel: carbon, stainless and triflex. If you new to this take stainless, if your used to maintain your knife carbon, if your more experianced and have a little more to spend triflex.

I also use 2 from the K.J. Eriksons Mora's, but they are not imported by any large company's.
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#71087 - 08/13/06 02:53 AM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag...food
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Registered: 12/14/05
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consider adding more food in the form of energy or granola type bars. Light, cheap and caloric

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#71088 - 08/13/06 09:08 AM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag...food
JIM Offline
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I already have a Emergency ration, high-energy biscuits,chocolate bars and kendall's mint cake.
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#71089 - 08/13/06 05:36 PM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
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Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Holy cow!

Between paying off a new car and paying down a credit card, there's no coin left for any of this gear.

My hat's off to you, sir.

Craig

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#71090 - 08/13/06 06:26 PM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
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Quote:
Holy cow!

Between paying off a new car and paying down a credit card, there's no coin left for any of this gear.

My hat's off to you, sir.


<img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I know: kits add up........a lot <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I guess those 6 weeks of working as a holiday-job in a nursing-home for the minimum-wage are finally paying off.......


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#71091 - 08/14/06 12:49 AM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
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Registered: 10/30/05
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Loc: Virginia, US
Your BOB is looking pretty nice, Jim! And you certainly didn't bore me, I love looking at other people's Bug Out Bags.

I definitely like the modularity. I'm doing the same with mine.

I can second the vote of confidence for the Moras by Frosts with the comment "Cheap but Solid". I carry a #760MG as one of my backup knives. It cost me $11.00 (US).

Do you have a smaller bag to carry equipment in if you have to leave your base camp to look for water or for some other need?

And now one of the most important questions...
How much does it weigh? <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I took my BOB out for a field test this weekend, and I must admit that though I'm able to carry the load with confidence, and though I've made it modular so I can quickly drop equipment if need be, it's still very heavy, and I'm rethinking many items that it contains.
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#71092 - 08/14/06 09:22 AM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
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Loc: The Netherlands
Never thought of adding a smaller bag. Maybe a good idea, I'll look into it, thanks.

The weight <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />........really want to know??

14kg, 28 pounds, about 31 lbs <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Now I must say that I can carry the weight of my BOB easely. I took it on several hikes and never had a problem with it.

But (I hear you think): What if you're injured?? Well, because the kit is modular, I can take the basics out of the bag and ditch the rest. But in a really bad situation
I'dd just ditch the BOB. My pockets also contain the minimal survival equipment to keep me alive.

I think 31 lbs is a small price to pay for the potential that load gives me.
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#71093 - 08/15/06 04:25 AM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag...food
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Yep. And not only will you still feel hungry (which makes sleeping and concentrating harder), but if you have to do a lot of physical activity (say, hike 20K and dig for a five or six hours) you'll burn that in two days.

Also, keep in mind, to some degree food and sleep can be used to balance against eachother.
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#71094 - 08/15/06 08:45 PM Re: Jim's Bug-Out-Bag
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Registered: 10/30/05
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Loc: Virginia, US
31 pounds isn't bad if you can carry it confidently.

I think my BOB runs around 50 lbs. when I carry my tent and sleeping bag. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I really should weigh it to make sure... Or should I?
If I know how much it weighs for sure I might suffer mentally from the thought of it. LOL
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