#70595 - 08/04/06 05:57 PM
alcohol stoves
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Anonymous
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Anyone here have experience with alcohol stoves? The simplicity and ease of use factors make them attractive, but which one should I get?
Are the "Pepsi can" stoves adequate or do I need to go commercial?
Any experiences from field use would be helpful.
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#70597 - 08/04/06 07:51 PM
Re: alcohol stoves
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/08/02
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i have a milltary "trangia", civilian trangia, trangia clone and loads of homemade alcohol stoves. All work just fine in cooking mine meals. The bought alcohol stoves are sturdier, last longer and you are able to hold a certain amount of fuel in them when packed. The civilian trangia are lighter and quicker than the milltary one. The home made one are perform surpisingly well. Mine favorite design is this http://www.thehanddrill.com/halconstove.htm It's easy to make, even in the field and works well. Just don't step on it.
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#70598 - 08/04/06 08:54 PM
Re: alcohol stoves
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Sultan of Spiffy
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Registered: 05/12/01
Posts: 271
Loc: Louisiana
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One word: Trangia. I have two, and I wouldn't part with them for all the tea in China (or, is that Sri Lanka? Whatever.) Built like tanks, blindingly siimple, and earth-friendly fuel. Yes, you will have to wait a few more minutes to get your boil on. But ask yourself - aren't you out camping to get AWY from all of the rush, rush of daily life?? And Trangias are quiet, too. (If you want to see my setup, go here .) Quick story: Last year I was camping with my son's Scout Pack. One of the dads (a lawyer, of course...) whips out his brand new JetBoil. He spends five minutes or so waxing on to the other parents at the campfire about how amazing and fast it is. He then spends another five minutes trying to get it to work. In that time, I had set up my low-tech Trangia and stove mount, and had (quietly) boiled water for my coffee, (I also got his Jetboil to work after I had made my morning cup of Joe. ) I'll let you draw your own conclusions. Hope this helps, .....CLIFF (like, who else?)
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#70599 - 08/04/06 09:40 PM
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Old Hand
Registered: 09/12/05
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Loc: MA
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Just a sidebar (get it, the guy was a lawyer! I crack myself up) on the JetBoil. Don't bother with more than one try on the Piezo igniter, they are notoriously finicky. If it doesn't light on the first try, use a match. Once it's lit, it boils faster than anything around.
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#70600 - 08/05/06 02:10 AM
Re: alcohol stoves
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Cranky Geek
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Registered: 09/08/05
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Loc: Vermont
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I've got a couple military surplus (Swedish, I think) Trangias, and the comments from others about thier durability are spot on. They only have one problem, and that is cold weather- alcohol doesn't vaporize very well when it is cold, so you need to keep your fuel and stove warm (easy- they are little enough to carry in your jacket) and you need a baseplate of some kind to keep them insulated.
For fuel, I like the methenol HEET antifreeze (yellow bottle). Good long shelf life, multipurpose, and easy to handle. I've also tried various brands of painters denatured ethanol, pure ethanol of a couple of proofs (vodkas, I wasn't wasting good stuff :P ), and a couple others. Some might have had slightly faster boil times, but transfering to an aluminum or plastic fuel bottle was a pain in the butt. Just don't try isopropyle (sp)- it has water in it, doesn't burn worth beans.
As for the home made jobbies, I've made a few. Some were good, some were in different, some were just bad. A lot of it depends on the state of mind you had while making it, and the cans used. They work, but quality control just isn't as consistant.
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#70601 - 08/05/06 06:25 AM
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Registered: 09/01/05
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yet another vote for the Trangia stove. i'm using the 25-7 duossal and its great. the cleanest burning fuel i've found is Everclear (190 proof i think) expensive yes, but burns extremely clean and hot. of course, if i used it more than a few times a month i'd probably use HEET or something much more affordable. here's the trangia website: http://www.trangia.se/
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#70603 - 08/05/06 12:57 PM
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Registered: 12/12/04
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
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I have a couple of Trangia stoves but in the field I've always preferred the flat solid-fuel Esbit-style stoves instead. One reason is a fear of spilling burning liquid fuel. Another is that although the Trangia by itself is small, it seems to need more paraphenalia in the form of stands and windshields. The bought solutions are big, and my home-made ones are a bit too clunky to be a pleasure to use.
Two advantages of the liquid fuel are that you can ignite it with a spark (when it's warm) without needing an intermediate tinder; and the Trangia has a simmer cap and a bigger fuel store so it is probably a more realistic tool for "proper" cooking.
I'm not sure either counts as a long-term solution unless you can stockpile a huge amount of fuel, or can make it yourself somehow.
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#70604 - 08/06/06 05:57 PM
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Anonymous
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Thanks for all the great info!
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