AndyO,<br><br>Thanks, One of your comments reminded me of something that I forgot to mention regarding the PTO Capstan Winch. <br><br>The one on my vehicle had the capability of being used with the engine starting crank handle. There was a lever beside the winch, that slid a pronged shaft into the crankshaft pulley of the engine when one wanted to use the engine for power. <br><br>The engine crank handle was then inserted through a hole in the front bumper, into a receiving shaft in front of the winch, which then turned both the winch and the engine crankshaft through the connecting shaft. <br><br>When engine power was not an option, then the lever could be left in the alternate position, allowing human power. <br><br>Fortunately, I never >HAD< to use the human power in the boonies, but it did spark some interest when I showed my buddies that it could be done. <br><br>They were also greatly intrigued by the engine crank capability as well and many of them wanted to do something similar to their vehicles after trying mine. <br><br>Yeowee . . . After hand cranking my Rover (as weIl as hand propping a couple of airplanes from time to time) I could only imagine hand cranking a V6 or V8 4X4 vehicle engine in the boonies. One would need to have forearms like "Popeye" and be ready to jump clear real quickly >Grin<. <br><br>In general, I agree with most all of the other commentary regarding hilifts, cable, tools etc. There is a definite wealth of group knowledge freely shared by the members of this site. <br><br>Dave:<br>Another little heads up item, check the hardware on your individual vehicle when collecting tools for the trip. My vehicle seemed to be a compendium of hardware types. I found American Standard / Metric / Whitworth? / ACME? and a few that I think could be best described as indeterminate. <br><br>I would hope that not all Rovers were equipped in the same manner, and as I noted in my earlier post, it was badly abused prior to my acquiring it.<br><br>The Rover did come with a couple of hand tools, which were great to have. The lug wrench really needed to have a longer handle though. <br> <br>Regards,<br>Comanche7